Kamala Harris’s running mate urges popular vote system but campaign says issue is not part of Democrats’ agenda

  • reddig33@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    Finally the dems are saying it out loud. They should have been yelling this from the treetops since Bush vs Gore.

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        The popular vote contract sounds interesting, but I like ranked voting more because it allows flexibility in sampling the public opinion of who they’d want. Think of any question a poll could ask you where you feel there isn’t a clear yes/no or single answer. Isn’t it better when it allows you to pick from a few choices that together reflect your answer? An election not only could turn out more voters, it could give statistical nuances on how people lean among the ones that voted in the winner. Eg., how many that voted both Democrat candidate as well as certain other parties.

        Just had a thought that we could even see a person vote Democrat and Republican on a ticket. But at least they got their vote in and showed how they’re torn.

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    3 months ago

    Wouldn’t this allow like three states to dictate the other 47?

    Sure popular vote sounds nice. But is it really practical if the goal is to raise the quality of life for everyone?

    A popular vote would allow the leading majority to neglect 49% of the active voters and groom the 51%. It’s the majority’s tyranny.

    Edit* wow you absolute degenerates. You only support this idea because you have the popular vote. If the tide turn this one suggestion could fuck you sideways. If tye republican party had the popular vote you wouldn’t engage in this circlejerk. Never support a suggestion that could shackle you to a sinking ship.

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      3 months ago

      Where the fuck have you been living for the past 24 years, in which we had TWO shitcunts rule by tyranny of the minority?

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            You’re as reflected as a surface painted in Stuart Semple’s Black 3.0.

            Defending a stance solely because it’s in your favour in this particular time isn’t a long term solution. It can shaft you and keep you shafted if the tide turns.

            Having in place a system that allows for diversity should be in the interest of any democrat with an IQ above celcius room temperature. Gerrymandering onbtye other hand and other ways of manipulation is a more rational way of attacking the issue.

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      3 months ago

      This take can sound reasonable at first but it’s not the right way to look at it.

      51% deciding the election is better than as low as 25% or so deciding in the system we have now. I mean, look at the candidates, they’re only visiting a few swing states and ignoring the rest. The issue you’re worried about is already happening.

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      That edit lmao

      Went from “I am a serious deep thinker” to “I just want red to win” so abruptly I got whiplash.

      • Crampon@lemmy.world
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        But I don’t want red to win. Fastest built straw man it gave you a whiplash too.

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      But the President doesn’t dictate much of anything (as much as the media salivates at the idea), our representatives in Congress do. The President appoints Judges and can veto bills.

      Our country is built on representation of districts and states, so voting for President is also built around representation of districts and states. Not the ideas of the majority. That is reserved for districts and states. The country is physically huge and all 333 million of us don’t live in similar situations economically, environmentally, ethnically, culturally, etc. So we vote based on our local circumstances and (at that level) it is a majority rule. That’s why you can have some states that are much more socialist than others. Or some states that are much more conservative than others. And we as individuals have the freedom and responsibility to make change we would like to see at that level, or we have the freedom of movement between those areas.

      I didn’t think I would need to do a basic civics lesson today.