Learning about religion in school isn’t necessarily a bad thing. We studied the major religions, Buddhism, pantheism, and to a lesser degree minor religions as a part of social studies in 7th grade. I think it was the first time anyone actually told me there were ‘options’ other than Christianity. More importantly, it helped me understand where others are coming from even though I don’t share their faith. If it’s approached from a purely educational standpoint I think religion does have a place in school - and I’m an atheist. We just shouldn’t be presenting any of it as fact or “right” when it’s all a matter of opinion, nor teaching them about any one specific religion and excluding others.
I’m against religion as an organized institution that influences the world on a daily basis, but fuck comparative mythology is cool as hell. Thanks to it we got Morrowind’s amazing lore, since it was one of Kirkbride’s fields of study in college.
Teaching all religions is definitely important. Teaching that christian creationism is just as likely/plausible as evolution is a big problem
…But that’s not what Christian nationalists are working towards. They want to teach their religion, not teach about all religion.
When step 2 intersects with capitalism, all the other stuff just naturally follows. Sure there are people who legitimately want to help people (read an article about 2 Christians giving up their high paying jobs to spend their time making affordable housing for the poor and indigenous people) but they’re increasingly becoming the minority.
That said, money based religions are only one oppressive group that bands together for profit and control. Religions aren’t much different than political parties (hence the smashup between many) and corporations, organized crime, etc.
Human nature, rather than being inherently good, tends to be inherently bad. Hence why most giant groups tend to be oppressive by nature. It’s why I believe that there shouldn’t be giant concentrations of wealth and power.
Cringe comment tbh. Religion is a net neutral institution. It can be nudged in any direction. Majority atheist states are not less oppressive than majority religious states. America does have a uniquely large amount of Christianity-inspired cults tho. I would say this more of an indicator of America’s failing/non-existent social systems, rather than an inheritant feature of religion.
Cults, mafias and corrupt monopolies exist primarily, when the state fails at least in one key area. They act as competitors of the state. Competition in science, art and economy is great. In governance, competition means public chaos and oppression. Multi-party democracies are the only exceptions (to some extent).
All that’s missing is the “You are here” pointer at the second to last step.
Rip americans
This, but unironically
Yeah, it’s ridiculous. American politicians literally swear on the bible as they assume office and then quote bible verses on the job and then they expect us to believe we’re anywhere other than at that second from last step?
This post is arguing that we should not allow people to fucking quote: “freely worship their god” to prevent being sent to an internment camp, and you incels are eating it up.
how does this have anything to do with incels?
brah don’t you know, it’s not hateful if it is a joke and i was only joking brah
braaaaah it’s just a joke and jokes doesn’t mean anything lighten up braaaaaah
Yikes
You lifted one word out of my comment and focused on that single word that had nothing to do with the actual point so you could avoid any acknowledging the criticism. I’m not playing your stupid games. I don’t accept for a moment you’re engaging in good faith, sorry.
If you don’t want to talk about why this was a shitty, hateful thing to post, nobody is forcing you to talk to me, buddy. Just go on with your life and try no to hurt anyone else.
I’d be more willing to engage with criticism if you didn’t use words that don’t make sense in this context, leading me to believe you don’t know what you’re talking about.
It’s not shitty or hateful, your anger is the intended outcome; this is a satirical edit of a Christian hate-meme to display how hateful it is when applied to Christians
It’s a parody of this:
Is it? I mean it clearly references it, but unless I’m not getting something, that’s a hateful meme slurring transgenderism, and this is a hateful meme slurring religion. If either of them are intended ironically, they’re cutting pretty damn close to the Poe line. I’m not seeing any parody.
As far as I’m concerned, it’s pretty funny! I understand some people may take this seriously and that’s sad.
I didn’t say anything about whether or not it is funny. Do you have any comment on whether or not it is hateful?
Ok, it’s not hateful unless you think it is.
To me, that’s funny. I understand that some people can take this seriously and come to think that what the meme is saying is actually happening which may bring more harm than good.
It’s not hateful unless I think it is. What might you mean by that rhetorical gem. Are you trying to argue that there is no such thing as objective hate? That I can just choose not to find hate speech hateful, and that fixes everything?
For some people it’s offensive, for others it’s not. At this point, it is subjective. If everyone thinks it’s offensive, then it is otherwise, it depends on each individual.
I don’t think it’s that controversial.
I’m not arguing anything, I’m talking about that specific meme, not about hate speech in general. I’m not sure what you are trying to say either :/
What I’m saying is that there is a fine line between funny and hateful. For some people this kind of meme is funny, for others, it’s hateful.
It feels quite strange reading this as a Jewish person.
doesn’t this post sum up the direction Israel is going in?
Israel doesn’t represent Jewish people as a whole. Especially not in the same way Evangelicals are linked with America.
I was taught about Islam in social studies, and I don’t remember anybody trying to force me to obey Islamic law at any point.
I don’t know whether there is a slippery slope, but I do know this isn’t an accurate description of it.
Person: here is generally how this thing has gone throughout history
You: my individual experience doesn’t match this, therefore you are completely wrong
Come on, dude, read a book.
He never said that they were “completely wrong”. Just casting doubt/sharing thoughts. Regardless, freedom of/from religion has only gotten better in the west for the last few hundred years. Please don’t let a few crazies in the US determine your perspective on an entire religion.
There are some states passing laws mandating “in god we trust” be placed somewhere prominent in the school. There’s an argument to be made that by doing this, the states are mandating that education systems must promote the the idea of the Bible and it’s claims being true.
That goes a tad beyond merely teaching kids about religions.
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