• ClockNimble@lemmy.world
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    As someone who lives in the “wouldn’t be that tough.” That’s big talk for someone who likely doesn’t want to spend their last moments desperately clawing at the roof of a pine box.

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      Democrats have guns. They just don’t worship their guns, display them like phallic symbols, or make a big deal of having them like conservative nutsos do. So there’s a ridiculous stereotype that Democrats don’t have guns and want to take guns away that conservative nutsos use to terrify their base into voting against responsible gun ownership laws.

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      Plenty do. The thought that democrats don’t have guns is a stereotype. Being pro gun control and being a responsible gun owner are compatible.

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      I mean… The Hawaii part went pretty well for them. It was the rest of it afterwards where things went south.

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        Nah. The Pearl Harbor raid didn’t achieve its actual objective, sinking the carriers, and some of the battleships they sunk were even refloated.

        https://www.historyhit.com/attack-pearl-harbour/

        It’s kind of light on details but the carriers are the important bit because their goal was to hit the Pacific Fleet hard enough that America just wouldn’t bother fighting for its Pacific colonies, Japanese leadership was very much aware it couldn’t win an actual war, especially after they’d already lost two million soldiers massacring their way into a stalemate in China.

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    As a resident of “this part wouldn’t be that tough”, i disagree. The entire Cascade range extending from the top of the central valley to the top of Washington, extending out to the ocean, is very very rough, steep, heavily forested terrain that would be absolute hell to get any kind of equipment through if the locals were to blow up a grand total of three bridges on three separate highways.

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      Also, fat chance invading the USA from the Pacific. That’s like trying to get through a chastity belt by putting your dick in the padlock.

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        Replied to the wrong comment. Leaving it because.

        Americans are the premier naval power.

        Hawaii, Midway and other Pacific islands having monitoring stations.

        The Pacific isn’t as easy to cross as you think due to it’s size and it has some nasty ass storms.

        Pair that with the coastal regions usually having cliffs rather than somewhere a landing craft could pull up and it isn’t easy for a start.

        Now mix in people who know the terrain and don’t want you there.

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          The USA is particularly strong from that side. Most of its navy patrols those waters, many islands on the Pacific are USA territories all the way to Japan which itself acts as an arm of the USA Military since the forced demilitarization of Japan in WWII. Japan and other islands basically form a wall around the eastern mainland that would be difficult to cross undetected, and when they did reach the shore they might get flanked from Hawaii, Panama, or Alaska.

          There is a reason Stalin chose to ally with and provide nuclear weapons to Cuba, and approach the USA via the gulf of mexico and Atlantic.

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          The Americans are the premier naval power.

          Hawaii, Midway and other Pacific islands having monitoring stations.

          The Pacific isn’t as easy to cross as you think due to it’s size and it has some nasty ass storms.

          Pair that with the coastal regions usually having cliffs rather than somewhere a landing craft could pull up and it isn’t easy for a start.

          Now mix in people who know the terrain and don’t want you there.

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      you do conquer it but the locals keep trying to feed you organic, wild harvested, artisanal Amanita soup

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      Also I always like to point out that Oregon has more guns per person than Texas, most people assume Oregon = Portland.

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      “Terrain is the first enemy your army will encounter” - Sun Tzu (not really, I just made that up)

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        Nope, logistics is the first enemy. You can have the men and high tech weapons you want. But if you can’t get them to where those things are needed in the quantity they are needed-- You lose.

        The US military is still the best in the world at moving men and material in the least amount of time than anyone else. And as much as fuckcars hates the over grown US highway system, it would be a tremendous advantage to be used against any would be invader.

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          Depending on how far back you want to go, you could make the argument for your army’s first enemy being…

          • Basic training

          • Recruitment

          • Their mothers’ birth canals

          • The dating scene in their home villages

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      Also: the emerald triangle and that whole area of NorCal are the far-right wackos who regularly fly the state of Jackson flags, they’re heavily armed and waiting to shoot people up there

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    Minnesota is also missing the “wears shorts in winter” tag.

    Happens all the time in negative degree weather.

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    I’m far more afraid of the Nazis in Baton Rouge running this state than I am of Acadians hunting out in the swamps. Just don’t go in the swamp! The Nazis are actively making life worse whether you seek them or not.

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      Civilian Marksmanship Program. It was a program designed to sell cheap obsolete military rifles, pistols, and ammunition to civilians to shoot target competitions with. It still exists today, though the supply of cheap surplus firearms has dwindled significantly. They never sell machine guns or assault rifles either.

      The program arose at the end of WW2 because the US army discovered that the US is not a “Nation of Marksmen” but mostly a motley collection of “city slickers” that didn’t know one end of a rifle from the other. Let alone actually shoot well enough to hit anything. It was taking too long to train recruits to use a firearm properly.

      All you had to do was join a CMP approved target shooting club and shoot a set number of sanctioned matches to qualify to purchase a refurbished M1 Garand, M1 Carbine, 1903 Springfield, or 1911A1 pistol for very little money. It cost me $200US for a “Rack Grade” M1 Garand back in the day. And for the longest time there was no need for an FFL transfer either. The CMP would mail the firearm directly to your home.

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      The CPU instruction to compare, I think. (I lived around there for a number of years and have no idea)

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    The Pacific Northwest would be horrible to invade. Even if the people don’t offer much resistance trying to get through the Rocky Mountains would be disastrous. But they actually have militias out there too.