When scalpers buy all the tickets to a concert in milliseconds, and the only way to buy a ticket is through a scalper, why are you blaming the person who wants to go to the concert instead of the scalper?
If we all collectively agreed to not buy from scalpers the ticket sellers would have a real incentive to do something against the scalpers. Right now they don’t have to care.
You’re hoping that the scalpers don’t get enough return to be able to justify continuing to play their role.
Yes, that’s what “If we all collectively agreed to not buy from scalpers” would achieve. I get that that isn’t going to happen but it is still our collective fault.
The initial seller absolutely cares. The venue earns a good part of its profit from drinks. The artist doesn’t sell merch to an empty hall. It’s only Ticketmaster that got its bag, but next time the venue or artist might drop them and go back to selling tickets at the door or whatever. Guaranteeing a full house is important for everyone, except the scalpers.
In the most recent US election one of the candidates ran on a platform of “being a dictator Day 1” and a third of Americans didn’t bother to vote at all while another third happily voted for the wannabe dictator.
I do not have any faith in a large number of humans collectively working together for a better ideal.
That “solution” suffers from the problem that requiring hundreds of thousands or even millions of people to get informed about and agree to do something all in the same time period (it won’t work if some do it now and others only later) is incredibly more hard than it is for a few tens of people or maybe a couple hundred to as individuals swarm the sales venues and take all the tickets to resell them for more money.
Or putting things another way, it’s a mountain to climb for large numbers of people to organise and stop scalpers (and that, only for a while, since if people stop doing it the scalpers will return), whilst in the current commercial environment scalpers appearing is a natural outcome.
This kind of thing usually requires changing the structures that make scalping so easy, rather than hoping that somehow (magic?) hundreds of thousands or miliions of people agree to do something.
PS: Yeah, a cultural change would be it, but expecting it to just happen and all at the same time (given that early adopters of that practice won’t actually see any upside until a large enough mass of people have adopted it and they’ll start giving up if too much time goes by whilst they’re refraining from buying from scalpers and yet scalpers keep going because so many others are still doing it) is highly unrealistic.
I’m all for changing the structures that enable scalpers in the first place but that too requires agreement and action of many many people. So if we can’t even do that for something relatively small like tickets to concerts I doubt we’ll be able to change the system in general
You could go do something else instead or watch one of their performances on YouTube for free. Nobody has a gun to your head, a concert isn’t a necessity.
When scalpers buy all the tickets to a concert in milliseconds, and the only way to buy a ticket is through a scalper, why are you blaming the person who wants to go to the concert instead of the scalper?
If we all collectively agreed to not buy from scalpers the ticket sellers would have a real incentive to do something against the scalpers. Right now they don’t have to care.
Would thry?
The ticket seller doesn’t care if there’s an empty hall, he got paid early on.
You’re hoping that the scalpers don’t get enough return to be able to justify continuing to play their role.
Yes, that’s what “If we all collectively agreed to not buy from scalpers” would achieve. I get that that isn’t going to happen but it is still our collective fault.
The initial seller absolutely cares. The venue earns a good part of its profit from drinks. The artist doesn’t sell merch to an empty hall. It’s only Ticketmaster that got its bag, but next time the venue or artist might drop them and go back to selling tickets at the door or whatever. Guaranteeing a full house is important for everyone, except the scalpers.
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I mean, yeah but have you seen…
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… The state of things? We need to stand up as a people
In the most recent US election one of the candidates ran on a platform of “being a dictator Day 1” and a third of Americans didn’t bother to vote at all while another third happily voted for the wannabe dictator.
I do not have any faith in a large number of humans collectively working together for a better ideal.
Didn’t say I do have that faith. Just saying what I think would be necessary for large scale positive change.
That “solution” suffers from the problem that requiring hundreds of thousands or even millions of people to get informed about and agree to do something all in the same time period (it won’t work if some do it now and others only later) is incredibly more hard than it is for a few tens of people or maybe a couple hundred to as individuals swarm the sales venues and take all the tickets to resell them for more money.
Or putting things another way, it’s a mountain to climb for large numbers of people to organise and stop scalpers (and that, only for a while, since if people stop doing it the scalpers will return), whilst in the current commercial environment scalpers appearing is a natural outcome.
This kind of thing usually requires changing the structures that make scalping so easy, rather than hoping that somehow (magic?) hundreds of thousands or miliions of people agree to do something.
PS: Yeah, a cultural change would be it, but expecting it to just happen and all at the same time (given that early adopters of that practice won’t actually see any upside until a large enough mass of people have adopted it and they’ll start giving up if too much time goes by whilst they’re refraining from buying from scalpers and yet scalpers keep going because so many others are still doing it) is highly unrealistic.
I’m all for changing the structures that enable scalpers in the first place but that too requires agreement and action of many many people. So if we can’t even do that for something relatively small like tickets to concerts I doubt we’ll be able to change the system in general
You could go do something else instead or watch one of their performances on YouTube for free. Nobody has a gun to your head, a concert isn’t a necessity.
Woah woah woah, we weren’t expecting an easy example to prove us wrong, how dare you.