• Th4tGuyII@kbin.social
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    The Jedi are so needlessly neglectful towards Anakin in their attempt to try to teach him to be emotionally detached, and then they wonder why he became loyal to the only guy who would actually listen to him (even if it was just to use him).


    The Jedi: Emotionally neglect Anakin for years

    Anakin turns on them

    The Jedi:

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      That is why Anikin was too old to be trained as a Jedi. Not because he was too old to learn how to fight, but because he was too old to be brainwashed to be a warrior monk. He had ties to the outside world. If they had started his training at birth, he would have no worldly ties to hold him back.

      And before anyone calls me out on it, I have not consumed any Star Wars media other than the first 6 movies. I am well aware that I am pulling lore out of my butt.

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          The jedi are so colossally ignorant it’s sometimes funny. They, in the height of their power during the new republic, sought to fulfill a prophecy that would bring balance to the force. My dudes, the scale is so heavily tipped in your favor what the fuck do you think is going to happen?

          Actually the council decided not to, but qui-gon, the grayest motherfucker there, decided to do it anyway. Maybe there was some intent there?

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            Quigon trusted the force. There were 2 paths, and he hoped for the one that didn’t come to pass. And then he trusted that Obiwan would be able to stand in for him if he needed to.

            The most damning thing he ever said was ‘you were my brother Anakin. I loved you.’ Because a brother was not what Anakin needed.

            But, you know what, I blame the whole thing on Yoda. One kind word from Yoda. One reassurance from this being who had lived so long in the world he literally had no right to not have god like wisdom, and it all would have been averted. So many possible off ramps and they failed anakin at every turn. It’s the most tragic story ever.

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        This and crucially he is beyond the age at which he can have his understanding of (and fear of) death moulded (brainwashed) to the weird Jedi dogma.

        You can make people do some really fucked up shit if you can disassociate their emotions from the deaths of those around them.

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      Because the jedi aren’t the good guys. I’ve said it for years they’re designed as the righteous side of the same coin of the Sith. Always rambling about balance and such then willingly submitting as the lapdog police force of the bloated and corrupt Republic, only taking action when their masters need a war. It’s thousands of years of moral objectivity gone wrong through the eyes of dogma fanatics who’ve lost their way.

      Even Luke’s revival (fuck off Disney) is bound to fail.