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Our true power comes from mitochondria which is the power house of the cell. In this house we respect biology.
Americans don’t really do anything as recent times have proven. They just kind of sit there on their phones are their country gets overthrown.
So, you think that the same people who couldn’t be bothered to vote are suddenly going to organize themselves and go on strike? What makes you think this will happen?
It doesn’t have to be everyone. I think I saw somewhere that the number just has to be like 3-6%
Most places I have worked expect to have a few people out on any day.
Even a 10% cut back across the board wouldn’t mean a lot, especially if other workers were willing to scab for overtime.
Good point, but a general strike is far more than just not working:
If people had put a tenth of that amount of work in, we would have had Bernie as the Dem nominee in 2020 and 2024.
I see nothing to make me think that my fellow citizens are going to organize themselves.
General strikes are outlawed and illegal under the taft-hartley act. Fight at the polls to overturn it.
Same reason they freaked the fuck out when we all had to shelter at home because of COVID. Didn’t last long because they needed meat for the grinder and forced a lot of back to work regardless of the risks.
And only callex those essential workers heros while not doing anything that would actually help them. Like increasing pay or protections
Ask any patient at a VA hospital. If the US calls you a hero, stop whatever you’re doing and run away. Do not walk. Do not stop to help others. Get out of whatever situation they are calling you a hero for being in. They are doing that as a means of absolving themselves of responsibility towards you.
If we could wipe a few trillion dollars out of existence in a few days all the rich would freak the fuck out.
People like musk have so much invested in the market and live off those investments by borrowing against those investments. They pay a fraction of their taxes that way through capital gains being taxed at a lower rate. The 1% have so much invested and all they care about is money!
If we held out long enough someone might just push trump out a window.
People are fucked either way, might as well go out on your own terms. That and its our last option outside of armed revolution.
OP is not wrong, but both are important.
If the billionaires were not concerned by the potential threat to their existence posed by democracy, they would not feel so motivated to destroy it.
Democratic government is among the most powerful tools that can be wielded by the working class against the capitalists.
I would like to know what this mythical democratic government exists alongside capitalism. As long as we have a society that’s dominated by capitalism and capitalists, there is no such thing as a democratic representative government.
I know this is just splitting hairs but for brief periods of time democratic principles did coexist with a capitalist system. For example, the post-WWII economic and civil rights booms existed inside of a capitalist system. It’s just that they can’t coexist for very long because they’re based on competing ideologies. Plus if it takes a world war to accomplish a brief respite in the class struggle it’s a very costly coexistence.
No it didnt lmao
please make the libs understand because i cant for the life of me
They’re so full of arrogance and hubris to be reasoned with.
Yeah, let’s take this message and sow division instead! Great work!
You’ll have to define what you mean by sow division. If you’re talking about it from a liberal point of view, one that’s defending the duopoly, they are the ones helping create that division.
electoral politics DOES get the job done, just not to the same standard as the popular vote.
The problem is that the people who WANT things to change for some reason, don’t seem to vote.
Never be deceived that the rich will allow you to vote away their wealth.
Lucy Parsons
Not a single one of our rights has ever been won via electoral politics, they have been won with a great deal of violence against the state and capitalism.
violence just happens to be alongside most of the electoral politics, i’m pretty sure we still voted for shit like, womens suffrage, and civil rights. Shit like gay rights as well.
Activism is an important part of politics no doubt, but to say that not voting and killing people will magically make legislation get passed is just fucking mentally deranged.
Women suffrage, civil rights, gay rights, labor rights, all of them had many acts of violence before anything meaningful came of it. Rights are never given, they are fought for with blood, sweat, and tears.
Violence is the only language the state understands, and unless people speak to them in their language they dont hear a thing. Violence is not just physical, its also mental and economical
that’s only part of it, you can’t just start killing people and expect something to change, you’ll get killed or executed by the government instead. Just look at the recent unitedhealth thing.
Violence is the only language the state understands, and unless people speak to them in their language they dont hear a thing. Violence is not just physical, its also mental and economical
they also understand legislation, it’s literally their entire fucking job. If you don’t believe me, go look at the 27th amendment.
Violence isn’t just killing, it’s physical, mental, and economic. The most significant power we hold is economic violence.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violence
thats uh, an interesting way to define “non violence”
Perhaps you should try some other word like uh, non compliance.
Your own source defines physical, mental and economic as violence.
We can’t get people to vote. There’s no way we’re getting a general strike
“getting”? It’s a basic democratic right?.. You are a democracy, right? You bombed all those countries in the name of it…
Many people cannot afford to strike
Many people cannot afford to not strike. Thousands of workers whose jobs depend on federal funding are uncertain about their livelihood. The coming rise in prices due to tariff nonsense will devastate working-class families.
Those people cannot afford not to strike
The owners would last 10 days, especially if the duration was announced ahead of time. Maybe a general strike that had no end date, once it went 3 months or so, would have the desired effect.
Going Luigi on a bunch of them would be faster, more effective, with stronger effects that lasted longer. Probably fewer total deaths.
No, 10 days is way more than enough, it’s even overkill.
If the full country, all workers, stopped for one (1) day, the billionaire elite would loose their shit.
Because they would instantly know that they lost control of the narrative, and that the people realized that it’s them who have the elite by the balls, not the other way around, and they’d come begging to the table.
Americans aren’t at that stage yet, but there’s a chance that this cabinet and their incompetence will finally go too far and break the camels back.
Electoral politics can get the job done but the populous is apathetic for various reasons.
What makes anyone think that people will instead decide to put their livelihoods in peril to accomplish the same thing?
Vote people!!
Don’t get suckered in by identity politics and wedge issues.
Don’t ever vote for a populist with dictatorial tendencies. Especially when that person is a convicted felon, a known liar and a narcissist.It is so obvious!!!
the populous is apathetic for various reasons.
Typical lib, refusing to actually look at the core of the problem (like trillions spent on propaganda, state and capitalist indoctrination since birth, people being deliberately kept too busy and burnt out trying to keep their head above the water, people being deliberately taught a whitewashed version of history and deprived of critical thinking skills, and the list goes on and on and on, but sure “various reasons” so easily dismissed and ignored), and instead expects individual to “solve” systemic problems (and I put solve in
bracketsquotation marks, because liberals, eternal guardians of the status quo, don’t actually want to solve anything, hence the insistence of repeating the same mistake over and over, playing by the oppressor’s rules, and pretending to expect a different result).Typical lib.
You know you’re parroting nazis, right. If you have a problem with corporate centrists you should come up with a different slur for them.
Typical lib.
You know you’re parroting nazis, right
New take just dropped
Liberals are a lot closer to nazis than any leftist, and infinitely more willing to work and compromise with them. Libs are the left wing of fascism, a necessary piece to allow nazis to take power, and you’ll never realize that bc you think your politics are 100% infallible and good and flawless
Where did you get that garbage?
From growing up in the US and paying even the tiniest amount of attention to national politics. You should try it some time, or just learn some history from 1930s Germany considering how things are going
Name one “liberal” who thinks their politics are 100% good and flawless.
