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  • And to give my potential hot take, but I think what Bluesky and the AT protocol does should be called crawling instead of federating

    Yeah I definitely wouldn’t argue against it, throwing my hot take out, I would say we should call all of these platforms decentralized social media instead of tying everything to federated social media, and keep everything under the same umbrella. But obviously crypto has somewhat degraded the word decentralized 😅.


  • Fediverse admins pay fees for their instances.

    Yes but they have communities within their instance. With ATProto everything is published to the protocol so there’s no inherent internal community, the instance is just the infrastructure at that point, not a community.

    Also in terms of expense I’ve seen it’s around $250 / month which equivalent to larger Lemmy instances, I think programming dev was around this price point so it’s not absurdly large. But it is at the point of why run this if I’m just hosting infrastructure and not creating a community.

    I have been reading that some people are working on subdomain @'s (equivalent to Lemmy username@domain) within ATProto, which leads to more community interaction, but I think that’s still handled under the Domain federation not the PDS / Relay federation.


  • The fact that there is still to this date no alternative Bluesky server

    This is true, but why would someone go out of their way to do this when all data ends up in the same firehose?

    Three circumstances:

    • Domain name federation: Currently live and implemented across the site, in fact I’ve done this.

    • PDS (personal data) federation: You would ideally only host your own PDS to host your own data.

    • Backup: You want to host a backup of all Firehose data for access by others (very valid case, but you’re paying to just host data that’s already available)

    Any other circumstance it’s going to cost the host money for effectively no usecase. Sure people can do it but why would the host pay hosting fees? If Bluesky went down a path of introducing advertisements or became a pile of shit then there’s true incentive to host your own independent PDS/Relay/App View. I generally think people just aren’t understanding federation across Bluesky because it truly is a lot more complicated complicated than ActivityPub (some pros / some cons).



  • Tbf a lot of the arguments against their federation capabilities here is that they make it hard to access, which is a much smarter decision from a user experience perspective. Majority of the general public has absolutely zero idea wtf federation and instances means and that’s okay, they just need a quick way to sign up and get using the platform.

    Considering you can host your own PDS and Relay I would consider that close enough to federation that it should be included in fediverse discussions and shouldn’t splinter.

    The big architectural difference is instead of AP federation with each instance it’s just one massive firehouse on the protocol (federation with all default) which absolutely has its benefits compared to ActivityPub.


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    Imo it’s bc it’s the new kid on the block. Yes it’s 10 years old but barely becoming common use in production and government mandates are only speeding that up. In actuality it’s a great language and has been hyped for a few years by people who actually use it. Python went through the same thing in the 2010s where devs really tried clowning on it, now it’s used everywhere.










  • As much as people around these parts despise algorithmic feeds, I suspect an algorithmic feed would’ve worked far better in this situation to feed all academic based content to someone immediately on account creation if they show interest/ follow peers in the field.

    This would’ve helped the migration since they most likely don’t know the accounts of the Twitter accounts posting academic content as that was algorithmically fed as well. I’m really doubtful it’s a problem with decentralization, seems to me mastodon had a problem with both not having a critical mass and the content that was there wasn’t easy enough to find.