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  • jyte@lemmy.worldtoTechnology@lemmy.worldGoogle is losing it
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    4 months ago

    You are taking all my words way too strictly as to what I intended :)

    It was more along the line : Me, a computer user, up until now, I could (more or less) expect the tool (software/website) I use in a relative consistant maner (be it reproducing a crash following some actions). Doing the same thing twice would (mostly) get me the same result/behaviour. For instance, an Excel feature applied on a given data should behave the same next time I show it to a friend. Or I found a result on Google by typing a given query, I hopefully will find that website again easily enough with that same query (even though it might have ranked up or down a little).

    It’s not strictly “reliable, predictable, idempotent”, but consistent enough that people (users) will say it is.

    But with those tools (ie: chatGPT), you get an answer, but are unable to get back that initial answer with the same initial query, and it basically makes it impossible to get that same* output because you have no hand on the seed.

    The random generator is a bit streached, you expect it to be different, it’s by design. As a user, you expect the LLM to give you the correct answer, but it’s actually never the same* answer.

    *and here I mean same as “it might be worded differently, but the meaning is close to similar as previous answer”. Just like if you ask a question twice to someone, he won’t use the exact same wording, but will essentially says the same thing. Which is something those tools (or rather “end users services”) do not give me. Which is what I wanted to point out in much fewer words :)











  • jyte@lemmy.worldtoYUROP@lemm.eeun titre intéressant
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    8 months ago

    I guess pilot is some kind of a special thing. They really need to speak english and require some minimal level. They will learn the basic they need for the job. Also, they get constant exposure to English, which help maintain and improve it.

    IT people, that’s a different story. I know “many” that don’t speak english or have such basic knowledge that they understand something different than what is actually said or written. Many job in IT will not require english, mostly a bonus. Take microsoft docs for instance, their website auto-translate to french. And even when needed, read/written is often enough. It’s also easier because we mostly learn to read & write english in schools and both language have common/similar words. Tools like google translate are also a blessing. Those 2 categories are in the upper class and I don’t really think they represent even 5% of the french people :)

    The real pain point is the accent. Because we mostly learn through text (reading/writing), many will fail to identify the word pronounced because it doesn’t match how a french would read/pronounce it out loud despite knowing the word. Same goes the other way, there were a few times when someone had a hard time understanding me because I failed to pronounce a word properly : brother vs browser. Any french would read out loud those two the exact same way.

    And about your point on social media I cannot say. I grew up at a time when they didn’t existed, and I don’t have youngsters around me to see their exposure to english and how they deal with it.



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    8 months ago

    They do. But why should they care ? English really is only present during school classes or for some few words that have made it to common vocabulary.

    Kids are taught, but they don’t learn (much). And since they have practical no use for english in everyday life, once they left school, they tend to forget the very little they ever learned.