I’m talking about this sort of thing. Like clearly I wouldn’t want someone to see that on my phone in the office or when I’m sat on a bus.

However there seems be a lot of these that aren’t filtered out by nsfw settings, when a similar picture of a woman would be, so it seems this is a deliberate feature I might not be understanding.

Discuss.

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    I think this is a good conversion to have. I enjoy images of women, but everyone doesn’t. I also don’t feel it’s fair to compare these images to porn and play morality police.

    It makes sense to break NSFW into a handful of tags and allow more granular control. The problem historically was that the number of tags kept growing and became hard to classify.

    The number of tags wouldn’t be much of an issue, but then it comes down to the OP to tag appropriately. Even with generic NSFW filter turned on, I still occasionally see genitals in my feed.

    We could allow users to tag, but I see brigading and other abuses possible here. Appointing power users also might work, but that has its own list of issues. That also would mean that all this information would need to synch with the post.

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      I vote for “NEP” to be the tag in between SFW and NSFW. It stands for “Not Exactly Porn”

      It’s for things you could still get off to and would likely get you in trouble at work, but hopefully wouldn’t get you fired

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        I feel like, if done right, we could have a system of tags we could assign a comfort level. One could select the tags that they don’t want to see, and possibly set their preferences to see what they want. Maybe a slider from absolutely not to always ok, and then move things as they see fit.

        Done right, a person can control the content as they prefer.

        Implemented poorly, and we have 4chan at the reigns of the MPAA.

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          I like the idea, but getting everyone to add the tags would be a nightmare unless the culture majorly shifts in favor of adding them

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            I think some communities might suggest tags, but you wouldn’t be able to catch still of them. We don’t have the resources for object recognition, but that is all I can think of for a fourth option.

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              Maybe a forced pop-up whenever you submit content. I know people are gonna hate it, but putting the option right in front of their face makes them far more aware of it.

              If you wanted to make it optional, you could allow users to filter untagged posts. I think that with a combo of the popup could work to make it a thing people actually used.

              Basically what were discussing is a less crap version of reddit tags, hashtags, forum tags, etc. The big problem with those, especially on reddit, is getting people to use them and use them properly. Every sub handled them differently (hell, on the 2 subs I modded, both used them differently and I ran both of them). Some subs let users apply, some were mods only, some were bots, etc. The other problem is getting people to use them properly. Hashtags aren’t a bad system, but easily abused (look at Tumblr tags. They’re essentially useless half the time).

              Maybe community assigned tags could work. Have the poster tag from the start, then allow users to report if it should have a different level. It seems like a good idea, but I’d want to have something like a trust score behind it to filter errant reports and trolls, which I don’t think is currently something lemmy supports, but idk.

              Anyways, just throwing out ideas

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                Not bad ideas, but the forced pop-up asserts that there must be something sensitive about a user’s post. I think maybe providing a few categories of sensitivity with their own drop-down boxes to select from.

                These are terrible options, but for sexual they could be: Suggestive - from making sexual motions or comments to our model above Nudity - non-pornographic, but nipples or genitals are seen Porn

                Violence seems to be a major category. Now sure about how to break it down

                Gore Minor Injury Medical procedure Violent - these are bad options, I said

                Politics is something people complain about, but I don’t know if that should be considered sensitivity or if we should attempt to break it down.

                Abuse This one is hard because by only selecting over category you rule others out. Is my abuse less than yours?