It’s one thing to have differing views, but I’ve seen enough attempted reddit migrations to be relieved that the popular communities in the fediverse so far haven’t been about crazy racist stuff or other extreme right bullshit.

I am also glad that I’m getting away from reddit’s general political shitposting, which was more left leaning. You couldn’t have any proper discourse on there, and even I with my generally more left leaning views recognized that.

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    want a place free of authoritarian policies that don’t limit actual human discourse.

    You’ve already been given a suggestion for just that kind of instance. If you want to see that kind of content, there’s a spot for that.

    Or are you just upset that there are places who don’t welcome those kinds of dumbfuck takes? Is it that you want to see the content for yourself, or that you want to make the content and force everyone to see it?

    Either way, this instance isn’t the place for you. Exploding heads is. Go there, be happy.

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      Do you prefer having a centralized authority dictating your exposure to content? What prevents you from personally blocking instances you disagree with and allowing others to make their own choices? Is it possible that the idea of critical thinking is discomforting and it’s more convenient to be shielded from diverging opinions, rather than exercising personal discernment?

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        Fuck off to your sad shithole, nobody has any obligation to be nice to Nazis. To the contrary, every decent person should feel obligated to strongly tell them to fuck off. You don’t have a space here, we don’t want you here, you are not welcome.

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        Do you prefer having a centralized authority dictating your exposure to content?

        Like, you mean, a website? That’s what you mean by “centralized authority”, right? A website? With its Terms and Conditions, following the applicable copyright and IP laws, following the relevant laws of the jurisdiction it operates in? Yeah, I’m fine with that.

        If you’re not, go to Exploding Heads. They welcome you. They want you.

        We don’t.

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          I don’t want exploding-heads. I would have blocked the instance myself if it hadn’t been blocked already. My issue is I don’t like having content blocked FOR me because I’m a functioning adult that can make my own decisions about what I see and think. You should be careful with how quick you are to cede control of what you’re allowed to see to others. Might make you pretty susceptible to hate and give you a false sense of reality.

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            My issue is I don’t like having content blocked FOR me

            Oh, I see. You want 4chan.

            Well, good news! 4chan exists! Go there.

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                That’s not the same and you know it.

                Oh, is 4chan too much freedom for you? What happened to your whole “no rules, just right” attitude?

                It’s sounding more and more like you don’t give a single fuck about seeing this kind of content; you want to force us to see this content. All the places you could go to get it, and you’re still arguing that we should have to see it too or we’re not free.

                You’re right. We’re not free. We’re sad, pathetic, chained little sheep beholden to a “central authority” that doesn’t allow hate speech. Run while you can! Flee, quickly! Or you, too, might get consumed by the woke mind virus and start thinking that maybe the Jews are ok people!

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                When did I say that? I’m very toxic towards people who are cool with the view that I should be either “sentenced to death” or “hunted with dogs”.

                Oh, you’re not cool with it, you just want to force me to listen to it anyway. That’s so different.

                Go back to 4 chan, otaku.

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      The issue I have with this overzealousness to censor is that the people who are most eager to censor others, are often the most bigoted, hateful, and misinformed. The suggestion of going to exploding-heads is just dishonest. They are undeniably right-wing. What I wish for is an open platform where left and right can speak freely to each other in polite discourse, not simply just be exposed to whatever dogshit takes some far right people post. going to exploding-heads would then limit my ability to see other positions.

      Are you suggesting that I should have an account on each fediverse instance, just to get all of the content? If so, then what the actual fuck is the point of federation in the first place?

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        What I wish for is an open platform where left and right can speak freely to each other in polite discourse

        Oh, I see. You’re delusional. You honestly think I should be having “polite discourse” with people who either want me dead, or are ok with voting for people who want me dead.

        Because, see, what’s left? What makes a Republican want to claim to be a Republican other than the culture war bullshit? What do they stand for? They haven’t stood for “fiscal responsibility” or “small government” since W was in office. The straight-up write things like “We stand against teaching critical thinking in schools” (see: Texas GOP party platform) into their guiding documents. And you think they’re going to have a civil conversation? You think I owe them a civil conversation?

        Every server we allow those people on freely will become exploding heads or 4 chan. Go look at r/politicalcompassmemes if you need an example. I don’t know how many times we have to watch it happen before you get the picture, or maybe this is your first ever internet community experience. But you’re wrong. Their bad-faith rhetoric, carefully-stated death threats, and direct personal attacks will drive everyone who isn’t one of them away, leaving only Nazis. If the admins call them out and ban them for that stuff, they’ll end up banning all of them and we’ll be having this same conversation. If the admins allow their speech, but don’t allow us to say “Fuck off, weeb, nobody likes you” without censure, then guess who gets to control the “discourse”? And if the admins don’t ban anyone for it, we’ll become Voat. Since only the slimiest members of humanity can tolerate that vibe for long, guess who ends up owning the server by default?

        You wanna see that shit, you enjoy being called slurs and told to go kys, you are free to seek out the communities who will do that for you. But fuck all the way off with telling me I must put up with it, too.

        Oh, I can block them? No I fucking can’t. I blocked you days ago, and your shit still shows up in my notifications. So, again, fuck off. If I have to listen to whatever dumb shit spills out of your brain, against my will, then you get to listen to my toxicity.

        Are you suggesting that I should have an account on each fediverse instance, just to get all of the content? If so, then what the actual fuck is the point of federation in the first place?

        …you… honestly thought… the fediverse… was supposed to be a centralized content aggregator…?

        What… uh, so, what… what do you think the fediverse is?