• AnneBonny@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    11 months ago

    The message is that you deserve nothing and must earn everything, not that there isn’t enough to go around.

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      11 months ago

      That’s not the message either. There are homeless shelters, mental and health services, and affordable housing being priotized all over.

      Necessities are in large free to those who need them. Nice to haves and luxury beds are not.

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        11 months ago

        There are homeless shelters, mental and health services, and affordable housing being priotized all over.

        But not in sufficient quantity to address need. Demand fsr, far outstrips supply.

        “Free” is irrelevant when it’s unavailable.

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      11 months ago

      Well you dont deserve anything that someone else has made…

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        11 months ago

        Then go live in the fucking wood like your caveman ancestors so you can truly live of everything you made yourself.

        Society is built on the shoulders of those before them, that they themselves built on the shoulders of those before them.

        Stop being a dick and go help someone in your community, you will probably learn a thing or two.

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          11 months ago

          If someone creates something to trade it for goods and services, thats fine, even if that means its free at the point of consumption.

          If someone creates something for their own reasons, you have no entitlement to it. Please try to be less emotional with your responses, this is a discussion platform meme page after all.

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            11 months ago

            “Their own reasons”

            Homie, the word your looking for is “profit”. And it has nothing to do with helping society. It’s about hoarding wealth.

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              11 months ago

              Found the capitalist.

              People create things all the time for their own reasons that have nothing to do with profit. Some people create things for fun. For some, it’s called having a hobby.

              Grandmothers knitting mittens, for example.

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            11 months ago

            Your initial point is that no one deserves what someone else did. My counter point is that since the dawn of humanity, every human has used someone’s else idea or tool to make their life better.

            So yeah, you owe it to everyone around you for the lifestyle you have right now.

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        11 months ago

        Actually, in a socialist utopia, yes you would. And everyone else would be entitled to the thing you made too. And every pricetag would be based on the labor spent in making the item rather than inflated to satisfy the profits of some corporation that doesn’t add value to the product being sold.

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          11 months ago

          That sounds like a communist utopia you’re thinking of, not socialist.

          And ignores that it’s not that “everything is free”, it’s that everything is owned by everyone, the same way everyone “pays” for the police - but they don’t work for you, they work for everyone / the state.