• Pringles@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    When you throw the word nazi around in an unfounded manner like this, it loses its meaning completely and whatever you tried saying loses all credibility. I’m not a fan of Orban, he is a corrupt authoritarian, but most definitely not a nazi.

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        1 year ago

        He makes every election about the topics that will make him win. He’s an opportunistic psychopath without any ideology, not a nazi.

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            1 year ago

            Not really, the nazis vote for a different Hungarian party (“Mi Hazánk” meaning “Our Home”) that is now also in the parliament

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              There can be more than one Nazi party. In german we have AfD, der Dritte Weg, NPD, freie Wähler and probably others I forgot. They are only differentiated by what horrors they want to commit against which foreigners and on whether they say the holocause didnt happen, wasnt that bad, should not be spoken about anymore or was a good thing.

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      This is such Reddit mindlessness.

      Dr. Jens Foell tweeted “As we say in Germany, if there’s a Nazi at the table and 10 other people sitting there talking to him, you got a table with 11 Nazis.”

      And that’s the truth. I don’t care that Orban is an opportunist, I care that he finds opportunity in the company of fascists and nazis. By proxy that makes him a nazi.

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      If he works with Nazis and uses their rhetoric and also acts against foreigners, why do you think he is not a nazi?

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      1 year ago

      I agree. He’s an opportunist and will not shy away from rhetoric that brings him power but he isn’t actually a nazi.

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      But that’s the most important thing, right? Using the exact right definition for you has more weight when he’s like 7/10 on any checklist and you can literally see him getting hard on nazi shit. Oh we can’t possibly misname a cunt, that’s not fair to… cunts? What the fuck do you want?

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      Agree. So many slurs I could rightfully throw at him, nazi is not one of them. It’s important to be clear with these terminologies, or they will be emptied out and cast aside. There are actual nazis in the Hungarian parlament, but they are a different party (“Mi Hazánk”, meaning “Our Home”)