• mamaMiata@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Do you have some sources? Every time I’ve tried to look into it, I get garbage articles and no real information.

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      Because the informations are hearsays from one man that may or may not be credible.

      Basically it’s a premium “trust me bro”

      For some it’s enough, for the majority it’s just another disappointing nothingburger

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        So that says nothing about the information itself but rather just goes on about credentials and employment, with a tidbit about not leaking classified information. It does not provide any justification as to why this person’s claims should be believed rather than just “he worked there”.

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          It does, the IG that reviewed his case found it to be “urgent and credible” enough to be forwarded to congress.

          Again, the man can’t & shouldnt, go full snowden where he just dumps his load and defects to Russia, forsaking his or his family’s future.

          So that leaves us in the position of, hey, this guy has a record of credibility and others whove reviewed what he has say its credible and urgent.

          It is up to congress to investigate and then declassify.

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            The information doesn’t have to be evidence of aliens existing to be “urgent and credible”, the statement says “The ICIG found Mr. Grusch’s assertion that information was inappropriately concealed from Congress to be urgent and credible in response to the filed disclosure.” which could mean it can just be about the organizational structure of the agencies, for example.

            And I wasn’t going to mention it but this is the second time you bring up Snowden, who neither “[dumped] his load” nor “defected to Russia”. He released information to journalists that the US government was illegally spying on its own citizens as well as its allies in a much broader way than anyone outside imagined. He was then stuck at an airport in Russia because the US government revoked his passport during a flight that landed there. He has repeatedly asked for a fair, public trial instead of being put in a dark box at Guantanamo and received no agreement of that from the US government so he’s stayed in one of the only places where he won’t be extradited to a country that intends to make him disappear. Since then, he’s criticized authoritarianism and governmental overreach while living in one of the most brutal dictatorships on earth, which takes more balls than either of us have.

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              But if I can’t needlessly denigrate Mr Snowden, how am I gonna convince you that Men in Black was a documentary about the real aliens that are real and really landed on Earth and work (for real) with the US government?

              With credible evidence? But I don’t have any because my guy is so much better than Edward Snowed-in off in Russia!

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        Thanks for the link. I was more interested in the original article here that focused on what exactly was revealed.

        I’m skeptical with the fact that non-human made artifacts and entire crafts were recovered, especially since no one except extremely secret organizations currently have these materials.

        The fact that a well respected member of the intelligence community backed by other well respected members has come out with these statements does raise eyebrows.

        With all that said, the debrief does seem like a credible source of information, and I’m curious to see what this evolves into if other active members of the intelligence community continue to whistleblow on alleged illegal activity.

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        Thanks for the link. I was more interested in the original article here that focused on what exactly was revealed.

        I’m skeptical with the fact that non-human made artifacts and entire crafts were recovered, especially since no one except extremely secret organizations currently have these materials.

        The fact that a well respected member of the intelligence community backed by other well respected members has made come out with these statements does raise eyebrows.

        With all that said, the debrief does seem like a credible source of information, and I’m curious to see what this evolves into if other active members of the intelligence community continue to whistleblow on alleged illegal activity.