Intel CEO laments Nvidia’s ‘extraordinarily lucky’ AI dominance, claims it coulda-woulda-shoulda have been Intel::Intel CEO Pat Gelsinger has taken a shot at his main rival in high performance computing, dismissing Nvidia’s success in providing GPUs for AI modelling as “extraordinarily lucky.” Gels

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    10 months ago

    I think it’s shorter to name the things Intel did strike gold on than the boats they missed despite all kinda of advantages.

    They missed the entire mobile market processor explosion, inevitable as it was since 2009 with Android launch(or 2007 if you want to say they should have seen what Apple was doing and thought they could compete, which if you’re an exec at Intel you should have).

    They missed cloud computing.

    Classic “big company hires/keeps overpaid check drawers instead of those with finger on the pulse”. Intel deserves the very little innovation, success and relevancy theyve had post 86.

    Bought my first AMD computer this year, an and 6800 Ryzen 7 with an on proc 680m gpu that is equivalent of ~ Nvidia 2050 discrete card. Game over for Intel.

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      Bought my first AMD computer this year, an and 6800 Ryzen 7 with an on proc 680m gpu that is equivalent of ~ Nvidia 2050 discrete card. Game over for Intel.

      While the rest of your post is logical, this is insane cope. No one is buying integrated graphics for gaming. 2050s are a joke in terms of power - you’re talking about a 2 year old budget mobile gpu… If anything this is basically a “I need to do some photoshop but don’t want a dedicated gpu on my laptop” type card. Intel has never given a fuck about mobile graphics. Their offerings have always been “serviceable, but get a real gpu if you want one”. Laptops are arguably better with ARM so there’s competition there…

      Intel is still selling their bread and butter and still has a huge stranglehold on their core market. Claiming “game over” because of an off case of an offshoot of one of their secondary markets is hugely overreacting.

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        Plenty of people game on integrated graphics and a 2050 is damn powerful for an integrated card. Not everyone is a hyper nerd who builds their own PC or pays big bucks for a good gaming laptop. There are tons of casual players using integrated GPUs

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        Of course they still have a stranglehold on computer CPUs, the point is they haven’t done anything with that for 30 years. Their bread and butter is an ever lower margin game in PCs that have largely peaked; they missed mobile phones and are set to miss whatever comes next with ARM.

        My purchase of a laptop without their proc isn’t even a drop in the ocean, but the point is that the only market they do have they can’t even dominate any more, just keep shipping manually faster CPUs once a year, just like they have been for the past 15.

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          I remember when Zen dropped and everyone thought Intel had some sort of secret super architecture stored in the archives that would allow them to compete. Turns out no, they had nothing. They still have nothing. All they do is make the silicon larger and crank up the clocks. Ironically reducing their margins in an attempt to out-compete a vastly superior technology.

          At this point I’m afraid AMD will get into the same position Intel was in during the Bulldozer era and price gouge just as much but unless Intel somehow manages to make chiplets work without infinity fabric (they can’t use it because patents) I really don’t see them putting out compelling products in the next years. AMD is steadily gaining market share because year after year their products are objectively better in increasingly many categories. Zen was just plain cheap enough to counteract the lacking performance but no AMD has the cheaper AND faster tech for most use cases. The last bastion Intel really has are laptops and once that is gone I can see a lot of OEMs start selling AMD products en masse.