• UnculturedSwine@lemmy.world
    1841·
    10 months ago

    I admire the students that are setting up book clubs for banned books. They are recognizing that they are being given a list of what they should read.

    • deweydecibel@lemmy.worldEnglish
      83·
      10 months ago

      They’re also evidence of why the book banning doesn’t really work as well today as conservatives would like it to.

      Book banning was an effective way of controlling what your young population was exposed to before the internet and social media. It worked best when the young weren’t even aware of the information they were being denied.

      But social media is making sure they’re all very much aware of what has been hidden from them. They know what’s going on. You will find teenagers in particular are kind of resistant to being told no by an authority, so they’re going to do something about it.

      Now, don’t feel too excited about this, because there’s a threat here. Every single time you see a conservative talking about more stringent age verification for things on the internet, part of what they’re actually trying to do is create an avenue to control the information kids are exposed to. They are pretty open about how LGBT issues, particularly the T ones, can be labeled as “sexual” and “inappropriate”. With very simple changes to the regulation, they can suppress children’s access to anything they like as long as they make a half-assed argument that it’s “inappropriate”.

    • spudwart@spudwart.comEnglish
      26·
      10 months ago

      Classic Prohibition Blunder

      “You’re not allowed to do that” is American for “You’re going to do that, and with as much spite and vinegar as possible.”

          • SattaRIP@kbin.social
            321·
            10 months ago

            I find it interesting that even then they slip up. Not Christian but ex Muslim, and even if I had stuck to learning only what Iranians mullahs and the nationalized education system wanted me to learn, I would still think Wtf is this BS?! And just that did happen.

            Religious nut jobs and authoritarians have their sense of morality so twisted they see some of the fucked up parts of their beliefs as normal for others as well.

            Well, if they were capable of empathy they probably wouldn’t be in that position.

            • oce 🐆@jlai.lu
              8·
              10 months ago

              Then I think they weren’t very good scholars. I find Christian scholars like the Jesuits very talented in twisting the language and ideas until it fits their ideology.
              Besides, I do think interpretation is required to read such books without taking silly interpretation shortcuts, but I’d rather have it from a secular religion history researcher.
              Edit: I was thinking about this scholastic system of education from the Middle Ages that made them so good at this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disputation

        • Bondrewd@lemmy.world
          21·
          10 months ago

          If people really distanced themselves from religion like they say, then the Bible would be one of the greatest fucking fiction books literature ever produced.

  • Buffaloaf@lemmy.world
    140·
    10 months ago

    My high school English teacher did this, although we didn’t know it at the time. It wasn’t until I was doing an essay on banned books in college that I realized all of the ones we read in his class were banned. Really made me appreciate him more.

            • SoleInvictus@lemmy.world
              20·
              10 months ago

              It’s legal. An annotated version, with neither the swastika nor a picture of the greasy Nazi fuck, was published a few years back and tens of thousands were sold, primarily to German libraries and schools. It’s a good study on how shitheads think.

              • Ziglin@lemmy.world
                6·
                10 months ago

                Now that makes sense. I do believe the original is banned, leading to people (including me) thinking that it is banned period.

                • Crass Spektakel@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  41·
                  10 months ago

                  “Mein Kampf” was never banned.

                  The copyright was held by the state of Bavaria as the official heir of Hitler and they simply said “Nope, no new printings.”

                  As the copyright ran out in 2015 everyone can copy and print it again. Though most don’t care, even the most right wing nutcracks realize that the book is rather badly written.

              • bl_r@lemmy.dbzer0.com
                6·
                10 months ago

                I often buy books written by shitheads when I end up studying fascism or other radical right wing movements. Heck, even more mainstream conservative movements with radical imagery or frequent dogwhistles. Reading books by shitty people on shitty topics is very important on understanding how the movements work and think.

                Reading about fascism from antifascists is good and all, but understanding fascist movements when they are most active requires reading fascist works. Heck, even with books like Mien Kampf, a book with a ton of analysis done by antifascists could still be a potentially useful read for antifascists.

                • SoleInvictus@lemmy.world
                  6·
                  10 months ago

                  That’s smart. I can’t count how many times I’ve learned about new dogwhistles or the details of various ideologies and realized an acquaintance was a fascist and/or racist sack of shit, although I’ve never been surprised. This would help me realize in real-time, so I can call them out on their shit.

                  I do feel like I’d need a book cover with something like “I’m reading -book title- to understand scumbags. I do not support its ideology”.

        • bort@feddit.de
          1·
          10 months ago

          iirc it wasn’t exactly banned in germany. Iirc the state of bavaria held the copyright and sued everyone who sold the book without their consent, while not printing any copies themselves.

        • iopq@lemmy.world
          102·
          10 months ago

          EOS is a cryptocurrency, OCS is the office of community service

          You’re welcome

          • maynarkh@feddit.nl
            61·
            10 months ago

            Most people don’t live in the US and don’t know or care about US military abbreviations.

          • sharkwellington@lemmy.world
            47·
            10 months ago

            I always hate this viewpoint that if someone doesn’t understand what someone else is saying on a website designed to facilitate conversation, they should Google it instead of asking.

            Aside from that, it really makes you look like a heel for using jargon and chiding other people for not knowing it.

          • BougieBirdie@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
            33·
            10 months ago

            I did a basic internet search for EOS and OCS, and I found lip balm and a cannabis dispensary.

            If you’re using a TLA (three letter acronym) you should probably recognize that some acronyms are common and have multiple interpretations.

            If you’re concerned about people looking like an idiot for asking questions, you should probably be aware that calling people an idiot for seeking information has the opposite result.

          • RainfallSonata@lemmy.world
            30·
            10 months ago

            Like there isn’t going to be eight million different explanations in Google for acronyms with letters as common as EOS or OCS. Have you never used Google?

          • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
            30·
            10 months ago

            Congrats your country filtered you into E1.

            Only if they’re looking for cannon fodder. I’m 46 and chronically ill.

            I don’t think I need to know any military abbreviations.

          • Ziglin@lemmy.world
            22·
            10 months ago

            Personally I read eos as endeavouros. Also ASVAB is an aptitude test by the USMEPCOM (United States Military Entrance Processing Command) So not only is it irrelevant for the average bloke that doesn’t want to serve in the military but also for anyone not in the US. (At least if other countries do use this test I missed that) Also Office of Community Services was first mentioned in the 27th result on Google when I searched for OCS.

            Moral of the story, just because you find it easily at your location and with your browsing habits doesn’t mean it’s that easy for everyone else. Please keep this in mind next time someone asks about the meaning of an acronym.

          • Moobythegoldensock@lemm.ee
            20·
            10 months ago

            If you’re posting something, it’s your job to do so in a way that people can understand your posts. Posting a bunch of industry-specific acronyms and then being condescending when someone asks you to clarify because they didn’t go and do homework on your stupid post doesn’t make them look dumb, it makes you look like a smug prick.

          • pimento64@sopuli.xyz
            3·
            10 months ago

            Where do you get filtered into if you’re too dumb to realize that half the shit in the Anarchist’s Cookbook is actually completely wrong, and act belligerent about it anyway?

  • randon31415@lemmy.world
    562·
    10 months ago

    Parents: We must ban all the books we disagree with!

    Kids: That’s fine, no one reads physical books anymore anyways. Just don’t touch the library internet filter - we are getting tired of finding ways around the block list.