• Scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech
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    10 months ago

    I’ve always thought if they just showed a bit of encouragement to him he would have been fine.

    You’re not master - yet. But don’t worry, you will be, it’s a process. Listen Anakin, I know it seems like a long thing, and you are doing a great job, but everyone goes through this. I went through it…

    Instead he just got “You are not qualified. Sit down”.

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      10 months ago

      Equally, I don’t think Anakin would have lost his shit on Mustafar if he didn’t look up and see Obi-Wan standing at the top of the ramp in the ship like an utter bad bitch.

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      10 months ago

      Almost the entire point of the prequels is that the Jedi are horrible.

      So, yeah. That’s how they do it.

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        10 months ago

        I feel like Obi Wan wasnt like them but also wasnt in a position to argue with others lile Windu in EP 2 and 3.

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        10 months ago

        Yeah, I know, took a couple watchthroughs to get it at first but this was their own arrogance really showing. They couldn’t be bothered just to show a bit of encouragement.

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          10 months ago

          I find it really interesting how bad heroes on movies have to be completely over the top and people still mostly don’t get them.

          In a book Anakin could be broken by the Jedi radicalism even if everybody acted humane. But I guess a movie couldn’t have enough time for this.

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      10 months ago

      I think he didn’t get that encouragement because they didn’t believe it.

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        10 months ago

        Yeah, from Episode I Windu and Yoda were doubting that Anakin was the Chosen One.

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          10 months ago

          Tbf, that shouldn’t be a qualifier for Ani to be on his way to a Jedi master. Yoda should’ve shadowed him more to balance out all his war experience

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              10 months ago

              Terrible parents are more likely to raise terrible off-spring.

              And if you are starved of emotional closeness to a father/mother figure and get manipulated by bad influences like Sidious who is most likely a master in manipulation and gas lighting and have way too much power in the force…Pretty easy to land on the wrong track.

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                  10 months ago

                  The later part after Shmi.
                  I’d believe her death really made all things fall together.
                  If the council rescued her from Tatooine and safeguarded her, this wouldnt have happened as it did.

                  As I only partially know the lore from the movies, did Anakin really have someone to talk to except for Sidious, Obiwan and Padme?
                  I’d bet as Sisdious being very good as a politician he’d also be excellent at manipulating the low level psyche of Anakin.

                  Please correct me if I got some lore part wrong as I do enjoy the discussions about SW lore.

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            I’m not saying that he should automatically be Jedi Master but he should have been treated better. Windu was especially hostile with him several times in the movies.