• Forester@yiffit.netOP
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    St. Paul, the guy who co-founded Christianity the Roman tax collector that we have historical records that for a fact indicate he existed, that guy.

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          What’s even funnier is while I am a “Christian”, this is actually a very critical Christian meme. But I’m also of the belief that most satanists make better Christians than Christians do so…

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                Honestly? Nah. Jesus wouldn’t be hanging with Satanists because that would be preaching to the converted - His work is already done. Fact is that Jesus likely would spend his time with right-wing Christofascists, but he would spend all of his time trying to convince them why they’re wrong. He’d be crucified again, but that’s kinda His deal. He hung out with vagrants and prostitutes because those were the ones who needed Him most; these days the ones who need Him most are the false Christians.

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                  He spent a good amount of time hanging out with the fishermen. You know the people that would feed the community. I’m not saying you’re wrong though. But I don’t think he would be hanging out as much as lecturing the christians

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                    I think there’s a distinct difference between him with the ‘sinners’ and him with the fishermen. By my probably biased understanding, most of what he did with the fishermen/apostles was tell them what to do, like one facet of a leader. And what he seemed to do with everyone else was uplift and occasionally teach, also like a leader.

                    Again, biased, I’m a Mormon.

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            Honestly I consider it a consequence of how long Christianity functioned as a state affair

            Christians who sit in pews like angels and then don’t even glance towards the needy aren’t so much signaling their own piety as much as acting out a previously enforced by law custom for which not obliging would get you condemned by your community.

            The conservative doesn’t see traditions as an expression of a culture and its values, but rather as rituals that they had to endure whether they liked it or not and so now you do too.

            My dad’s a devout Christian and the man let me and my sis both stop attending church long before we were both old enough to go away to college, although tbf that may have been more because he was sick of the effort of waking us both up for the sermon he wanted to go to lol.

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          Then don’t. I don’t believe in any god. I just don’t call myself an atheist. I’m just not anything. If there was a survey of which religion I belonged to, I just wouldn’t check any box. Then I don’t have to associate myself with any group, I just am.

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            That’s the definition of an atheist bro. A theist believes in a higher power and an atheist does not.

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              “It’s odd that the word atheist even exists. I don’t play golf. Is there a word for non-golf players? Do non-golf players gather and strategize? Do non-skiers have a word and come together and talk about the fact that they don’t ski?”

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                This is a pretty sad take from NdT, and it comes across as though he were attempting to dodge a question. Perhaps even to avoid being labeled, which is probably why you like it.

                If 99% of the population were golfers, and 1% weren’t, there would almost certainly be a word for the people who didn’t golf. Same applies to theists. Up until very recently it would have been considered quite unusual to not be a theist.

                Atheists did not decide on that label. The word is believed to have initially been pejorative.

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            What the fuck are you spouting off about? The other comment was called out for not knowing history