• Chriskmee@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    Most of their billions is ownership in companies they grew into what they are today. It’s not like they have billions to spend, it’s that their ownership is worth billions according to the market.

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      1 year ago

      They could go to any bank and leverage that asset for a loan for more than everyone who posts on this platform will make in their lifetimes no problem. That is a nonsense talking point

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        1 year ago

        What’s your point? So because they can leverage their ownership of their own company we need to take away that ownership?

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            I don’t think the stock market should be determining if we take away companies from their owners, no matter how much it’s worth. Why does having more wealth than a certain size city matter? Especially if your company has more employees and customers than even a large city?

            • very_poggers_gay [they/them]@hexbear.net
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              Especially if your company has more employees and customers than even a large city?

              Why do those employees get the bare minimum? Why are the working majority excluded from ownership and decision-making in the companies they run?

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                Employees are allowed to buy company stock and vote using it just like anyone else. Many companies even have employee stock purchase programs. What’s the problem ?

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                  1 year ago
                  1. those shares don’t give you voting rights

                  2. those shares amount to a tiny fraction of the total value of the company

                  3. without the employees there would be no company

                  you try to square those three facts

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                    1 year ago
                    1. So all those times I’ve gotten mail about using my shares to vote, what was that about exactly?

                    2. Of course they do, I don’t expect a given employee who isn’t the owner or high level exec to have a larger fraction of ownership.

                    3. So what? What’s your point?

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        So what? We should take away that ownership because they can leverage it? Also the same people suggesting we tax wealth like this want to also close those “loopholes” of low interest loans on shares.

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              Taking away (extreme) wealth. There’s no reason one person should have that much. There’s countless better ways to use that money/wealth than for one persons extravagant lifestyle. And even if they don’t have an extravagant lifestyle, what are they gonna do with it? Doubt they will build infrastructure out of good will with it.

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                So take away ownership of a company just because it’s too successful? That wealth is mostly in company ownership, so are you really suggesting we steal away legitimate ownership in successful companies?

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                  1 year ago

                  Yes. Fuck Capitalism.

                  It’s not stealing their legitimate ownership. They don’t have legitimate ownership.