I don’t think you fully understand just how efficient things have become.
An iMac G3 with it’s 400MHz processor in 1998 consumed about 100 watts of power just running.
In comparison an iPhone 15 pro max with it’s 3.7 GHz processor draws about 14 wattsat maximum load and like <2 just idling
That’s just the consumer end use electronics, power supplies themselves have gotten A SHIT TON better in the last 20 years. Through the 80s and 90s power supplies just were not efficient at all and a ton of power was… just lost…converting from AC to DC.
On top of that my statement of we use more things might not actually be even true, after I thought about it, we replaced a ton of gadgets from the early 2000s with a singular efficient power-sipping device. We don’t carry MP3 players, CD players, PDAs, Digital Cameras etc any more nor do we really listen to a dedicated radio or stereo setup anymore (Audiophiles excluded).
So no, I agree with the other poster (who actually provided solid evidence, where’s yours?) Total power usage is trending downwards thanks to efficiency advancements
When the line goes Up ⬆️ that means usage is up ⬆️ when the line does down ⬇️usage is down ⬇️ if you look you’ll see after 2000 the line is trending down ⬇️
Things are getting more energy efficient and in his chart it shows per capita flat or trending down. But unless population growth is also flat than overall is still growing.
That’s not to say energy use overall will never go down (it did during 2020 when everything shut down) but it hasn’t yet.
So you’re agreeing that human energy use has increased despite efficiency gains.
No, you’ve missed the point entirely
I don’t think you fully understand just how efficient things have become.
An iMac G3 with it’s 400MHz processor in 1998 consumed about 100 watts of power just running.
In comparison an iPhone 15 pro max with it’s 3.7 GHz processor draws about 14 watts at maximum load and like <2 just idling
That’s just the consumer end use electronics, power supplies themselves have gotten A SHIT TON better in the last 20 years. Through the 80s and 90s power supplies just were not efficient at all and a ton of power was… just lost…converting from AC to DC.
On top of that my statement of we use more things might not actually be even true, after I thought about it, we replaced a ton of gadgets from the early 2000s with a singular efficient power-sipping device. We don’t carry MP3 players, CD players, PDAs, Digital Cameras etc any more nor do we really listen to a dedicated radio or stereo setup anymore (Audiophiles excluded).
So no, I agree with the other poster (who actually provided solid evidence, where’s yours?) Total power usage is trending downwards thanks to efficiency advancements
I’m not debating that efficiency has improved.
Total energy use by humans has increased and shows no sign of reversing. IDK what faffing around debating ancient CPUs is supposed to prove.
They’re called examples
Here’s the link from the other guy https://www.eia.gov/totalenergy/data/browser/index.php?tbl=T01.07#/?f=M&start=200001
When the line goes Up ⬆️ that means usage is up ⬆️ when the line does down ⬇️usage is down ⬇️ if you look you’ll see after 2000 the line is trending down ⬇️
That’s just for the US.
Global energy use is still rising.
https://ourworldindata.org/energy-production-consumption
Things are getting more energy efficient and in his chart it shows per capita flat or trending down. But unless population growth is also flat than overall is still growing.
That’s not to say energy use overall will never go down (it did during 2020 when everything shut down) but it hasn’t yet.
Edit: words are hard.