While spez is indeed a truly horrible piece of work, we should also keep in mind that he wouldn’t be doing this without having some serious backing from shareholders. CEOs are the public figure presented to us for the 2 minutes’ hate but let’s not forget that these decisions are taken in huge boardrooms. So maybe we should say ‘fuck spez et al’ instead of just ‘fuck spez’.
isnt that what happened to Ellen Pao and how we got Spez? they promoted Pao, she took heat for firing Victoria, then Spez stepped in and “saved the day” (i.e., the board discarded Pao after the ritual sacrifice was complete and put in their new puppet)?
I will be real with you here Spider - if you follow anything objectionable up stream you’ll always end up with a handful of ethically and morally bankrupt capitalists. My emphatic “fuck Spez” isn’t just groupthink on this occasion. I appreciate that CEO is a job, and ultimately there’s a level of corporate responsibility - but Spez lied to us, ignored us (the AmA was laughably bad, answered 6 comments disingenuously and then dipped), attempted to defame or gaslight 3rd party Devs, violated data protection laws to preserve the sinking ship and has directed the entire company to basically dig in and starve us out. Users are the only thing bringing value to the platform - and this change is only harming the most productive users.
He might have the faith of the greed council backing his idiotic decision - but they weren’t the ones pissing off of the top diving board into our swimming pool.
He could have stood with us, we could have had transparent communication and even if we didn’t get compromise we could have had at least a conversation about why this is happening. but instead of any good faith engagement he decided to tell a bunch of transparent lies and throw a tantrum and then change the rules of moderation to reduce our power to fight for what we wanted.
While spez is indeed a truly horrible piece of work, we should also keep in mind that he wouldn’t be doing this without having some serious backing from shareholders. CEOs are the public figure presented to us for the 2 minutes’ hate but let’s not forget that these decisions are taken in huge boardrooms. So maybe we should say ‘fuck spez et al’ instead of just ‘fuck spez’.
Yeah spez is just the figure head, if he got replaced nothing would be resolved.
It’s not Fuck Spez, it’s Fuck Reddit Inc.
Does no one remember the Ellen Pao era
Maybe, but it was spez who lied and gaslighted.
Just dropping in to say I noticed your 1984 reference, and appreciated it especially in the context of this particular discussion.
Thanks!
Never thought the telescreens would be in our pockets though -_-
isnt that what happened to Ellen Pao and how we got Spez? they promoted Pao, she took heat for firing Victoria, then Spez stepped in and “saved the day” (i.e., the board discarded Pao after the ritual sacrifice was complete and put in their new puppet)?
I will be real with you here Spider - if you follow anything objectionable up stream you’ll always end up with a handful of ethically and morally bankrupt capitalists. My emphatic “fuck Spez” isn’t just groupthink on this occasion. I appreciate that CEO is a job, and ultimately there’s a level of corporate responsibility - but Spez lied to us, ignored us (the AmA was laughably bad, answered 6 comments disingenuously and then dipped), attempted to defame or gaslight 3rd party Devs, violated data protection laws to preserve the sinking ship and has directed the entire company to basically dig in and starve us out. Users are the only thing bringing value to the platform - and this change is only harming the most productive users.
He might have the faith of the greed council backing his idiotic decision - but they weren’t the ones pissing off of the top diving board into our swimming pool.
He could have stood with us, we could have had transparent communication and even if we didn’t get compromise we could have had at least a conversation about why this is happening. but instead of any good faith engagement he decided to tell a bunch of transparent lies and throw a tantrum and then change the rules of moderation to reduce our power to fight for what we wanted.
Fuck Spez specifically for these reasons.
Fuck capitalism for everything else.