• Null@pawb.social
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    9 months ago

    This news shouldn’t be a shock to anyone. Ubuntu is just doing what they’ve been doing all along, and that is trying to push they’re snap packages.

    As long as distros give people the option/ability to install in other ways I don’t see a problem. Now if Ubuntu out right banned any other way to install apps that would be big news.

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      9 months ago

      If you try and use apt to install Firefox, it secretly uses snap anyway. Shit like that is a problem

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        9 months ago

        good news is ubuntu is pushing me to flatpaks, those still work

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      9 months ago

      Yeah, I don’t see much wrong with it as long as it works as well as any other installation option and stays maintained.

      Interesting thought about banning other installation methods. I can’t think of how they’d actually do any of that besides going fully immutable. 🤔

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      9 months ago

      I’ve tried a few big apps in flatpak form, and usually they’re much bigger, and noticeably (many seconds) slower to start up. (Haven’t tried one with less than 4 cores, so can only imagine they being much slower.)

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          9 months ago

          Well, could’ve been clearer, my experiences apply to snaps and flatpaks. Huger and slower. And I imagine that on older machines, with fewer cores, slower drives or less ram, possibly unuseable. (Don’t know.)

          I do know that I’m seeing a lot less ‘Electron’ - framework apps (FAT and cycles-sucking) being released these days, doesn’t seem too popular.

          Appimages are easier to install but have only tried a couple. ‘Stellarium.appImage’ is MUCH slower to load, but OK in operation.

          I’d enjoy hearing the -measured numbers- and how many people prefer prefer these FAT formats and why.

  • corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca
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    9 months ago

    Snaps are a great way to:

    • ruin single source of truth for state of installed software
    • … and contents
    • … and dependencies (dependency hell is always self-inflicted)

    What a dumb, dumb idea. We already avoid debian/ubuntu because of the validation lack in the packaging, but this is just comically bad.