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    I only use it because there’s no way I could convince my friends and family to move to anything else.

    There’s no point in switching to another app if I then literally couldn’t communicate with the people I need to through it.

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      I’ve been using Beeper a month or two. They had a long waiting list, and initially it was subscription only, but they are working on smashing through the waiting list and have changed to a freemium model where you get it for free and (eventually) they will have extra features for subscribers.

      Basically, it’s one chat app that connects to lots of different chat services.

      If you’re technical, the app is a fork of Element, and the service uses matrix bridges to connect to different chat services, but it’s all presented in a (somewhat) polished way. The wait list is because they are still struggling with scaling and quirks but if you’re on Lemmy you’re probably already well familiar with putting up with this.

      It covers heaps of chat networks. Whatsapp, Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn, Signal, Telegram, and more. It also will let you SMS (unlike Signal 😬).

      You can also connect to Matrix rooms but you don’t seem to be able to connect to an existing Matrix account (it uses a Beeper matrix account to connect).

      It doesn’t do video/audio calls so they recommend you leave the original app installed and disable message notifications (but leave on call notifications) if you use this.

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          Yep. But if you’re keen on this stuff, you can self host matrix and the bridges and do it yourself. Their bridges are open source, just not their apps whose features are their business model.

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        That’s interesting!

        I’m just not sure the “security” of WhatsApp is preserved in that case but it’s certainly better than not being able to talk to certain people at all.

        Also I think these kind of meta chat apps have been tried before and it usually doesn’t end very well so I’m not sure I would be super optimistic.

        Any of the chat provider can break their link to beeper and since they probably don’t really care about it it shouldn’t very reliable.

        But a cool find nonetheless!

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        Nice. Looking into this one. Although in reality I use about 95% whatsapp just because everyone else does. Wish we could all just switch to Signal or even Telegram but nah… Whatsapp is so engrained everywhere that it is not going to go away anytime soon.

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        Well, that’s super neat and very useful for my circumstances. I’m moving outside of the US soon to a place where WhatsApp is dominant, but I still want to use SMS/MMS with family and friends in the US since I doubt they’ll make the switch. I’ve been using WhatsApp for about a year now while coordinating stuff for my soon-to-be home and I’ve come to the conclusion that WhatsApp is complete garbage.

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        Signal kinda put themselves out of the messaging app battle when they dropped SMS support

        I totally get why they did it, but I think a lot of people stopped using it for this reason, unfortunately

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          I don’t really want to start a debate on the Signal SMS dropout but …

          They could have put a big red warning and a disclaimer you have to read once for the unsecured SMS. It would have been fine.

          Yes, you would have to maintain that but I think it would definitely have been worth it considering how much reach they lost dropping this feature.

          I stopped using Signal when they did, and that’s one less tech user advertising their secure app.

          It’s a shame because I think this will slowly kill the project.

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                I don’t mind it so much. At least it’s not Facebook Messenger or Whatsapp. I’d rather die than put those on my phone.

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                  Facebook Messenger is dogshit but WhatsApp works well imo. More features than sms or even rcs. Dogshit privacy though, even if security might be good.

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                    I’ve never used it, and I never intend to. I know SMS isn’t ideal for privacy, but at least I can use FOSS apps to interact with it, and it doesn’t mandate intrusive features like “reactions” or read receipts

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          Realistically, out of the very few people (in relative terms, of course) that use signaly, I highly doubt there was a huge number that relied on it for SMS. Or even knew about SMS. First, you have to rule out anyone who was using it on iOS (by this point, you probably have thousands of people left out of the entire pool - yes I’m kinda pullin that out of my ass but you get my point - which is nothing).

          So killing SMS definitely wasn’t the make or break for Signal. Not even close to being likely.

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            Yeah, I guess I’m not sure about the actual statistics. I do know it was the point when I realized I wouldn’t personally use Signal because everyone I know uses SMS, SMS federates with email, and if I tried switching to a non-SMS app, I’d be screaming into a void.

            The only other message apps people around here use are Snapchat, FB Messenger, and WhatsApp, and I’d rather cut people off than use any of those.

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      same here. Heck, even Nextcloud Talk is more sophisticated than frickin’ WhatsApp these days…

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      I literally installed Telegram/Signal on my families devices, synced their contacts with the app, and said “if you want timely responses, message me here”