‘Andrew Tate is a symptom, not the problem’: why young men are turning against feminism
www.theguardian.com
Teachers describe a deterioration in behaviour and attitudes that has proved to be fertile terrain for misogynistic influencers

Despite the triggering headline, this is a pretty good article that talks about how younger men are falling for this horseshit

  • spaduf@slrpnk.netM
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    11 months ago

    We absolutely need to be doing more on this front and I think the best solution is actually pretty simple: men should read feminist literature (or discourse) that has their interests in mind. If you take nearly any one of these people and make them read bell hooks (this is the hard part), it will almost certainly change their lives for the better. What’s more, a lot of that just comes down to having their pain validated and it’s relation to patriarchy exposed.

    • Track_Shovel@slrpnk.netOPEnglish
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      11 months ago

      At the risk of oversimplifying, I don’t think men need to read feminist literature. Nothing wrong if you do, but I think men in general need to stop smelling their own farts and take a long, hard, and uncomfortable look in the mirror.

      Figure out who exactly it is you want to be. What traits does this version of yourself have? Chances are, ‘intolerant shit sack’ aren’t the words we want to describe ourselves with. Then we start to ask if we are said shit sack, and if so, how do we stop from being one.

      The point I am trying to make is that we far too often focus on small things, and lose sight of the big picture.

      • BaldProphet@kbin.social
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        11 months ago

        I think men in general need to stop smelling their own farts and take a long, hard, and uncomfortable look in the mirror.

        Figure out who exactly it is you want to be. What traits does this version of yourself have? Chances are, ‘intolerant shit sack’ aren’t the words we want to describe ourselves with.

        I think this mentality is why so many men have a problem with feminism. When you start your conversation with “you’re the problem”, you’re going to alienate the group you’re attempting to reach out to. Men have real problems that deserve to be noticed and recognized, and not all of them are a result of patriarchal culture. Telling them that they’re to blame for their problems because they’re “intolerant shit sacks” is just going to convince them that the problem is feminism.

        • Track_Shovel@slrpnk.netOPEnglish
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          11 months ago

          When you start your conversation with “you’re the problem”, you’re going to alienate the group you’re attempting to reach out to.

          Valid. However, my vitriol stems primarily from having been a shit sack at one point. It’s painful to see many guys suffer through the same thing. Most of which, may not be as lucky as I was and actually clue in and want to change, or will struggle to change but be unable to due to lack of support or guidance.

          Men have real problems that deserve to be noticed and recognized, and not all of them are a result of patriarchal culture

          Again, on the nose, and while we must acknowledge and validate these issues, we absolutely must not let ourselves wallow or let these issues limit or define us.