• Fades@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    hmmm, should i vote for an old guy who believes in democracy or should I vote for a useful idiot to the russians who hates minorites whether it be gender or sexual preference and whatnot and would hand ukraine over to putin in a silver platter, undermine nato any way possible for daddy putin and also crown himself king and end all further elections while imprisoning his enemies and all the other things he lied about and said were being done to him…

    damn, I can’t really figure it out! I can’t stop WaVeRiNg!!!

    GODDAMN MORONS ARE GOING TO KILL US ALL, JESUS CHRIST

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      Maybe instead of always forcing us to vote for the lesser of two evils, the democrats should take a second, listen to their base, and actually run someone competent.

      Because right now, there is zero difference between how the republicans would handle this genocide and how the democrats are handling it. Both parties are in the pockets of oil companies and billionaires, and don’t want a change to the status quo.

      Yes voting democrat is marginally better, but it’s not as vast a chasm as people like to make out. The system itself is broken - fucking around in the system isn’t going to fix it. It needs to be smashed and then rebuilt back up

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        And that would be a powerful argument if the power of the presidency extended only to Gaza. Let’s keep doing what Michigan did and show our anger in the primaries. Worst case, they ignore it. In the best case, they get scared and listen.

        EITHER WAY, when it’s down to Trump v Biden, remember those who don’t have the luxury to “watch the world burn for 4 more years.” Even if you concede that Biden is objectively as bad at handling Gaza as Trump would be (I truly believe Trump will be miles worse), there are so many more lives on the line.

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          I’ve voted in every election that’s taken place since I was old enough to. When it comes down to it, I’d still vote for biden, because I agree, having the democratic party in charge is way better than having the republicans in charge.

          However, that also gives me pause. Because you shouldn’t be able to run on “hey I’m not as shitty as the other guy”

          That’s what I hate about the two party system. Democrats by and large are not progressives. They prop up the current system just as much as anyone else. There needs to be an actual progressive party, and massive caps/bans on lobbying

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    It’s cute how everyone is pretending there’ll ever be another election if Trump gets back in. He’ll feel spitted, and giving up the presidency a second time will literally feel like an existential issue for him.

    For Trump leaving office will be the equivalent of feeling like he’s dying, publically and shamefully.

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      Christianity emerged out of rumour and legend to grab the minds of fools and it transformed the world in very chaotic and destructive ways. Q Anon is setting up to out do Christianity. The numbers on Q’s growth are terrifying.

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        this a naive and reductionist view of christianity. it was actually a quite revolutionary and radical movement. god himself became human and lost faith. as zizek puts it, christianity is the most athiestic religion.

        jesus was a radical figure trying to kick the romans out of judea - which is why he got executed. he was against the organized religion and the power structures of the time. a few decades after, there was a jewish revolt and the jews controlled jerusalem for a few years. the Romans sent a large army, captured it, and decided to deal with the “jewish question” by making judiasm illegal and scattering the jews

        paul, christianity’s don draper, who wrote half the bible and the earliest works of the bible, came up with all sorts of fantastic stories (3 day resurrection, immaculate birth, etc) and modified the story to make it friendlier to roman gentiles (pontius pilate washed his hands in the bible and didn’t want to kill jesus. in reality he killed thousands of jews a year. he wouldn’t have given jesus a second thought)

        so christianity went from a jewish cult to a fast-growing religion and that spread across the empire until eventually Constantine himself converted

        christianity is the story of the tenacity of the jewish people and the soft power they managed to propagate throughout the empire even after the empire tried to stamp them out. it’s the story of a small desert people conquering the roman empire against all odds

        you reduce it so something so simplistic and naive and it’s sad. people should learn the full story.

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          I really don’t see there’s specific evidence for what motivated Jesus, what his goals were or even anything he actually said. Maybe he was a real specific person, but for sure he would have been much less than how the stories portray him. We can say this for certainty because the gospels contradict each other in the specific events of his life.

          You seem to be creating your christian narrative out of wishful thinking just because you want to see it that way. Very normal Christian thinking on your part.

          I hate this need to for legend and superstition to justify value systems. It’s so easy to manipulate people with this mentality. Look at Qanon. Just believing anything that affirms their prejudice fears. When the leader comes along who can codify and canonize the belief system it’s going to be a disaster for civilization.

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    4 months ago

    Biden is just not a good candidate. Swap him out. Pull some one off the back benches if you need to.

    Only requirements are that they are breathing, and are eight years younger than normal retirement age, and they’ll likely be doing better than Biden is rn.

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        4 months ago

        Gretchen Whitmer.

        Jay Inslee.

        Ron Wyden or Jeff Merkley

        Fuck even Gavin fucking shit in my mouth Newsom.

        Thats just the west coast.

        Plenty of blue governors and senators from safe blue states that can do this.

        Also, we can look outside of government. I’m very serious that a Jon Stewart run would EASILY beat trump, and he’d be far better on the middle east.