Another month down according to Statcounter at least, Linux on the desktop is doing better than ever. Take it with your usual little pinch of salt like any survey sampling though.
  • Shin@lemmy.worldEnglish
    66·
    9 months ago

    Didn’t we also just break 3% last year, or am I mistaken? Either way, awesome news for the FOSS community.

    • didnt_readit@lemmy.worldEnglish
      61·
      9 months ago

      Yep and it seems to line up with the rise of the Steam Deck and all the discussion around how viable gaming on Linux is these days. I think there were/are a LOT of people that only stick with Windows due to gaming. Hopefully as gaming support continues to improve on Linux more of those people will make the switch.

      • Shin@lemmy.worldEnglish
        25·
        9 months ago

        I don’t even think much when running games anymore. Even DRM-free games I get from Gog I can just click on and run with Wine most of the time. It’s so awesome.

          • yeehaw@lemmy.caEnglish
            7·
            9 months ago

            😂 this happened to me but I can’t remember the game.

            Also on Elden ring on windows, any time I exit the game that stupid anticheat window stays there until I force close from task manager.

            When I realized Elden ring ran fine in Linux, I didn’t have this problem. For me, Elden ring legit runs better on Linux than windows…

        • A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.worldEnglish
          10·
          9 months ago

          Same.

          I only have a handful of games I cant play, and thats due entirely to their shitty choice of DRM… and thats not a big detriment cause that obscene DRM would have kept me away on Windows, anyway.

          • Crozekiel@lemmy.zipEnglish
            5·
            9 months ago

            Same here. The games with rootkit and invasive spyware anti-cheat don’t work, but I avoided those games like the plague on windows already so this just makes it easier for me to avoid. That shit doesn’t work anyway, it just makes people not automatically jump to accusing people of cheating when they get owned…

        • BaroqBard@lemmy.worldEnglish
          2·
          9 months ago

          There’s that and Heroic is doing some excellent work implementing proton and steams stuff into GOG games!

          • Shin@lemmy.worldEnglish
            2·
            9 months ago

            Yeah, but I prefer running it without a launcher. It’s just cool to me I can easily run the games via clickng on the exe or searching it in a runner with very little hastle.

        • SeekPie@lemm.eeEnglish
          1·
          9 months ago

          One game that’s really inconsistent about running on Wine is Roblox, which iirc won’t run at all anymore due to the new anti-cheat which deliberately prevents running with Wine.

      • turkishdelight@lemmy.mlEnglish
        3·
        9 months ago

        I used to check winehq for linux compatibility before buying a game. I stopped doing it around 2021 or so. There is no need. dxvk just works.

    • marcos@lemmy.worldEnglish
      12·
      9 months ago

      It’s some serious stonks. Not only the trend is very strong, it’s also breaking resistance every few years.

      Anyway, those trend-breaks have a curious proximity with Microsoft pushing new Windows versions.

  • Czele@lemmy.worldEnglish
    32·
    9 months ago

    And firefox has 3%. Its more unpopular to use firefox rather than linux lol

      • pHr34kY@lemmy.worldEnglish
        4·
        9 months ago

        It’s interesting that Asia is boosting Linux numbers when the Valve hardware survey showed the opposite. The numbers were recently updated to include China and it caused every OS to lose ground to Win10.

        • Grass@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          2·
          9 months ago

          China windows is probably somehow more than 100 percent pirated and comes with additional spying and maybe crypto mining in the background.

          • pHr34kY@lemmy.worldEnglish
            1·
            9 months ago

            I would love it if Valve secretly checked if Windows was genuine and put it in their stats.

            • 0x4F50@feddit.chEnglish
              2·
              9 months ago

              There is a MAS solution for windows that activates it on GitHub. I had to use it when the key I purchased a decade ago didn’t work when I upgraded my hardware. I didn’t want to pay a second time for an OS that was going to push Cortana, OneDrive, and ads at me.

    • yeehaw@lemmy.caEnglish
      8·
      9 months ago

      This blows my mind. I still daily drive Firefox on all 3 of my computers and my phone. I don’t get the hate, and I feel it’s the right thing to support in this monopoly market where the biggest browser is owned by an ad company.

      • dumpsterlid@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        9 months ago

        You have to understand, this late into the slow motion apocalypse the writers were starting to get eaten by hellhounds and so there is a lot of rushed writing/plot arcs that just doesn’t much sense when you look too closely because it isn’t like the lizard people were going to reduce the apocalypse guild writers quota just because some of them (most of them) had been eaten by hellhounds, the lizard people SENT the hellhounds so that would have just made the lizard people look incompetent.

        I mean, it’s the same old enshittification thing and all you know the story.

    • turkishdelight@lemmy.mlEnglish
      1·
      9 months ago

      Mozilla was mismanaged for years. The CEO is now out and hopefully the new leadership will do better.

    • massive_bereavement@kbin.social
      1·
      9 months ago

      I use Chameleon, and probably some other users do, so I guess both the 4% and that 3% is skewed, though I guess not more than 1% or 2% even.

    • SeekPie@lemm.eeEnglish
      1·
      9 months ago

      Probably because it’s less popular as a pre-installed browser than the others and most less tech literate people use what’s included with the OS.

  • spez@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    22·
    9 months ago

    I hope it’s one of those phenomenas where it takes a long time to bridge one gap but an exponentially shorter time to double or triple that previous gain. Like it takes 32 years to crack 3%, 1 year to break 4% >> 15% in the next few years? A man can hope.

  • Epzillon@lemmy.worldEnglish
    14·
    9 months ago

    Got a new M.2 drive and installed Linux on it, still run windows on my old disk (no dual boot, only go to bios when I need windows).

    Experience has been amazing so far, biggest issues for me are the following

    1. Had to get used to Gimp instead of my very legally acquired version of Photoshop
    2. Discord screen share does not have audio and is laggy as hell (an alternative discord-screenshare application exists but gives my voice a 1-2 second delay which upsets my gf when we’re in voice, although it can stream entire desktop with audio which is amazing for watching shows together)
    3. Some games with anti-cheat don’t work, so if I want to play those I still have to jump on windows.
    4. No HDR (but it looks to be coming to KDE and Cosmic soon)

    Apart from this the experience has been amazing. I’m using Nobara and mostly gaming. As a dev terminal, scripts and ssh to my raspberry pi:s is just such a seamless and nice experience.

    • Nobilmantis@feddit.itEnglish
      6·
      9 months ago
      1. Had your same exact issue, and after jumping through hand-made solutions and countless clients i finally found a client that works perfectly out of the box for screen sharing with audio, has no other issues and comes with the big plus of having customization plugins Vesktop (i think its on flathub too so if your distro ships that probably get it from there).
      2. Had the same issue here too and yes, while my “main” game got recently proton verified and i could finally get totally rid of windows, there are some few (BattleEye mostly) games with no anticheat support.
      • Epzillon@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        9 months ago

        Thanks for recommending Vesktop! It works better than my previous alternative. Still doesn’t seem to be able to really do 60fps streams though…

    • d3Xt3r@lemmy.nzEnglish
      2·
      9 months ago

      1. If you don’t mind using an older version of Photoshop (CC 2021), you could try this installer: https://github.com/LinSoftWin/Photoshop-CC2022-Linux

      2. I would recommend using Vesktop instead of the official client - it’s faster, has better privacy, and best of all, screensharing including audio works like a charm.

      4. You could run your games thru gamescope - and as a bonus, you can use features like FSR for better quality or performance.

      • Epzillon@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        9 months ago

        Big thanks for the Photoshop repo! Works perfectly, I didn’t think Ps on Linux was really possible but it seems we are living in the future!

  • Yuri addictEnglish
    13·
    9 months ago

    Just switched to kubuntu since windows 11 cant read my hard drive and im amazed what valve has done for gaming on linux

    • bitchkat@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2·
      9 months ago

      I switched to VALinux in 1999 when I got tired of bringing my HP workstation home every day. Prior to that I has using various unix workstations running X10/11.

  • Ton@lemmy.worldEnglish
    115·
    9 months ago

    Will probably get flamed to death for this, but… a few months ago I’ve decided to try Ubuntu on an older Intel MacBook Pro, just to try it out after many attempts in the past. (Mac user here)

    Then I tried to use the trackpad. After 30 minutes of fiddling I gave up. Say what you want about Apple’s UX choices, esthetics and business practices. But boy do they know how to produce a computer and UX combo that fits like a glove.

    In comparison, the Ubuntu experience was like eating nails.

    And before y’all go off; I would like to switch. I’m getting tired of Apple’s business practices.

    • turkishdelight@lemmy.mlEnglish
      15·
      9 months ago

      I had to use Apple MacOS for a year. It was horrible, I hated every second of it.

      Apple isn’t better. You are just used to it, and anything else feels awkward. I had the opposite experience.

      • fidodo@lemmy.worldEnglish
        5·
        9 months ago

        Same. I hate the unintuitive keyboard shortcuts, the nonsensical drag and drop everything UI, and their ridiculously over complicated development system.

      • The Menemen!@lemmy.worldEnglish
        4·
        9 months ago

        Yeah, I have a similar experience. I used a bunch of operating systems in my years. From C64 GEOS over Atari TOS Amiga OS, DOS, Windows (pretty much all of them since 3.1, except Vista and 8), Android, MacOS and iOS to Linux (several distros)

        I don’t know why, but MacOS and iOS are for me just the worst user experiences. I feel completly trapped and helpless when using either one. Guess they are just not for me.

        • 0x4F50@feddit.chEnglish
          3·
          9 months ago

          I used to greatly prefer MacOS until I switched my desktop from Windows to Linux and got comfortable there troubleshooting and installing things. Now I feel exactly the same as you with MacOS. Trapped.

    • d3Xt3r@lemmy.nzEnglish
      11·
      9 months ago

      No flaming here, but your first mistake was trying Ububtu - it’s not the best in terms of hardware compatibility, and they (Canonical) often make controversial software/development decisions, which makes it one of the most hated distributions in the Linux community.

      Your second mistake was trying it on a Mac. Now don’t get me wrong, many people do run Linux on a Mac, but it’s not quite plug-and-play (compared to PC), and not everything may work as intended. Since you’re new to Linux, I wouldn’t recommend your first experience of it to be on a Mac. And to be clear, this isn’t Linux’s fault - since Apple (or whichever chipset maker) doesn’t provide Linux with any official drivers/code, the devs have to figure stuff out themselves by reverse-engineering stuff, and as expected not everything may work.

      If you’ve only got Macs around and you don’t have the patience to troubleshoot Linux issues / read manuals etc, then the easiest way to try it out is in a virtual machine like Parallels or VirtualBox. The performance might not be the best, but at least everything should work out-of-the-box. As for the distro, since you’re a Mac user, you’d probably feel more at home with elementary OS. Other options you could try include Pop!_OS, and Zorin (the Pro edition even has a macOS-like layout).

      Once you’ve tried Linux in a VM and decide you’d like to use it full-time, the best way to experience it is on native Linux-first hardware - basically PCs which come with Linux out-of-the-box, such as those made by System76, Slimbook, Star Labs, Tuxedo etc.

    • paris@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
      5·
      9 months ago

      In case nobody has mentioned Asahi Linux yet, I’ll bring it up. I haven’t used it, but I have a friend who does.

      Asahi Linux is a project and community with the goal of porting Linux to Apple Silicon Macs, starting with the 2020 M1 Mac Mini, MacBook Air, and MacBook Pro.

      Our goal is not just to make Linux run on these machines but to polish it to the point where it can be used as a daily OS. Doing this requires a tremendous amount of work, as Apple Silicon is an entirely undocumented platform.

      Asahi Linux is developed by a thriving community of free and open source software developers.

      I believe they have a Fedora-based distro that should be solid for daily use, but again I haven’t used this myself.

    • thadah@lemmy.worldEnglish
      4·
      9 months ago

      After years of using linux distros and settling on an arch based distro for my daily use, I switched jobs and they allowed me to have “linux” as my laptop OS.

      They put Ubuntu 22.04 LTS on the laptop. Admittedly I hadn’t used it for a few years, maybe 18.04 outside of server use cases maybe.

      The experience is horrible. It throws errors about Ubuntu, about Visual Studio Code or any program every hour, without those programs having any trouble whatsoever to function.

      It reminds me so much of Windows, and even though I prefer it over that system, I can’t shake the feeling I’m serving the OS, rather than the other way around, just like in Windows.

      And don’t even get me started on Snaps over DEB packages. Had never tried them before and I can say with confidence the hatred is deserved. Code didn’t even start up in the snap version and Firefox was so slow and laggy I was thinking the laptop was broken somehow.

    • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      12·
      9 months ago

      Why not join now? It’s really easy to get Linux with Steam set up, and you can use Big Picture mode to get the same SteamOS experience.

      So just pick a popular distro, install drivers (if NVIDIA; kernel includes AMD drivers), install Steam, and then play!

  • Magrath@lemmy.caEnglish
    31·
    9 months ago

    I don’t know if I’m ready to switch my main PC over to Linux just yet but I may give it a try with my media server PC. I mostly just torrent and run Plex on. Would be a good environment to test it in. It’s basically just a PC made from old parts and it’s running windows 10 right now.