Return-to-office orders look like a way for rich, work-obsessed CEOs to grab power back from employees::White-collar workers temporarily enjoyed unprecedented power during the pandemic to decide where and how they worked.

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    1 year ago

    Its important to note what they consider work too. I’m sorry but spending half of your day getting to meetings and the other half in them is not the same as fixing a layer 3 issue on a critical app, or laboring all day in the sun at 60 hours a week. I don’t subscribe to the idea that work is work. If that were true nobody would mind being a traffic controller over an office administrator.

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      But work is work. If you’re doing it for the benefit of a business only because they’re paying you to do it then that is the literal definition of work. Just because it’s not hard work doesn’t mean it’s not work?

      Besides, that number isn’t self-reported numbers, it’s from a study I read recently, and it was included as a tangentially related point. I could try and track it down if you like.

      It’s also important to note that not every CEO is a billionaire of a megacorp. There are millions of small business owners who are also CEOs.

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        You shouldn’t be getting downvoted for your numbers. I would believe, especially in smaller businesses that the CEOs actually work. Hell, the CEO at my company is a great guy. I meet with him every week and he is there all day with us. There is another layer though, which is the managing partners. They fill the traditional role of the boogeyman CEO people imagine. So we aren’t necessarily mad at the position. We’re mad at the inequality in pay with no tangible or even existent contribution. Especially when these people are taking such a large portion of what could honestly be spread around to make everyone comfortable, at least in my specific situation.

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        This logic is going to be lost on these anti-work nerds. All business is bad. All workers are gods and all CEOs are lazy scum making billions off the toil of their hoard of exploited office drones. This place…

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          I don’t think being inflammatory is helping the situation. I’ve been surprised before, and just because I’m net negative doesn’t mean lurkers haven’t read it and listened.

        • seitanic@lemmy.sdf.org
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          Every day, I see more and more people on Lemmy complaining about Lemmy.

          This place is getting more like reddit all the time!

          • Stumblinbear@pawb.social
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            1 year ago

            Unfortunately it’s not a “Lemmy issue” it’s an “Internet issue.” You’re more likely to get engagement from those that disagree rather than from those who already agree.

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      If all work is not the same why would people perform these difficult jobs where you fix issues on critical apps.

      Simple office administration jobs which aren’t difficult can be done by anybody.

      Sure, most CEOs get disproportionately paid for the position they’re in but I don’t think they’re job is any less stressful or demanding than actually working with the nuts and bolts.

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        “if work is hard, why wouldnt you just choose not to do the work?”

        This is next level out of touch lol. You’re right though, all those construction workers should just become CEOs!

      • Stumblinbear@pawb.social
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        I actually love my job as a software engineer! I’d rather do absolutely nothing else, as a boring desk job where I sit around looking busy all day would bore me to hell and I’d very likely make 1/3 what I’m making now. I find exactly zero interest in a “people job” even if it paid more because I wouldn’t enjoy it.

        So, the reason I do the job I do is because of personal fulfillment and money. Beyond the bare minimum of survival, that’s why people do the jobs they do. It’s not rocket science