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      That was the original. Evolution of the meme:

      In retrospect I should’ve posted the second image, seems funnier.

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      Atheists be like “look at all the things my real and not made up methodology can do” and then post science fiction.

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          We have hoverboards, and they don’t hover. We have jetpacks, but they run on water and need a hose. Our ray guns are only useful for blinding pilots. Our AI doesn’t even have a robot body, and it starts repeating itself with shocking speed. We pretty much gave up on going to space anymore, except for a Nazi who has a grudge against trans people because his daughter won’t speak to him.

          Our engineering is disappointing because the rate of innovation is slowing down, and it’s slowing because all the low hanging fruit is already picked. It’s taking more and more resources to continue at the same speed of innovation. You can’t just have an apple hit your head and discover gravity anymore, innovations in theoretical physics require supercolliders and deep space telescopes.

          The good news, though, is there’s plenty of low hanging fruit in psychonautics. So that’s the science I’m interested in. Unfortunately, y’all atheists don’t believe in magic so you’re missing out on a whole scientific field. You won’t mix science and religion, so you can’t innovate as much.

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              Psychonautics has existed as a known research field longer than the internet has been around, and there’s a strong argument to make that it’s fundamental, just like physics or math. Ancient Tibetan monks were doing psychonautics, and they laid the groundwork for modern parogenetic techniques.

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                I haven’t checked it out and I’d be open to review the evidence in its favor, the reason behind my comment was this:

                Unfortunately, y’all atheists don’t believe in magic (…) You won’t mix science and religion, so you can’t innovate as much

                By definition, if something is observed to behave according to logical laws, it is not supernatural, and therefore not magic. Religion by definition requires faith, and if you’re using faith specifically for your scientific endeavors, you’re doing science wrong.

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                  Religion by definition requires faith, and if you’re using faith specifically for your scientific endeavors, you’re doing science wrong.

                  That’s categorically untrue. Science has conclusively demonstrated the existence of the placebo effect, which is powered by faith. People believe they will get better, even when evidence does not exist, even when they know they’re in an experiment with a control group, and they get better. That’s faith. Faith is such a huge factor that any pharmaceutical trial must control for it with a placebo control group. Scientists spend a great deal of time and money determining which medicines work because of faith, and which ones work because of chemistry.

                  The effects of faith upon our reality are scientifically quantifiable, predictable, and controllable. Faith is a tool in the scientist’s toolbelt, just like instruments, drugs, computers, or anything else. Psychonautics can essentially be viewed as the science of faith, and other such reality-altering mental constructs.

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    Plot twist: God sent the scientists to make the bionic arm

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            Never mind the biblical bit where god says he creates evil, you’ll never convince the religious with facts and logic. They’ve got to feel it or realize it themselves.

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              The ancients had more sense: at least a capricious, emotional God similar to humans (like the ancient Greek gods) that does everything including create evil and allows the torturing of people on a bet at the high council reconciles better with nature.

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                Ouch. Job was a trip and a half.

                My, what a benevolent god is god to bet with the life of his most loyal worshiper. A bet he looses… against Satan? And then god goes down and brags about his achievements to cow his tortured worshiper?

                That actually fits with the days of Olympus quite well actually.

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                  Also everything he lost is treated indistinguishably from property - e.g. he dismissss his wife to sleep with other men, he’s made whole by being given more children (probably with some other woman/en), as if having more children would replace the children you lost - it’s an insane piece of text.

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        Yeah, I grew up in a Christian background and still am. Never heard of anyone advocating the denial of medicine IRL.

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          You never hear anyone prattling on about the Covid vaccine being poison? My Jesus fan relatives can’t talk about anything else

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            True, but every medical achievement is heralded as god’s divine will. “Thank god for sending the doctor.” I’d rather just thank the doctor, really.

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              Here’s a fun one…the relative with an Rx pad is the same one preaching gods love.

              Thank the…other docs who don’t push horse pills I guess? The propaganda is real

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              Should this not raise red flags? Why is your church pro-vaccine and others anti-vaccine?

              Who’s right and who’s wrong? But then again Im an atheist who questioned god long before Santa Claus, because atleast the jolly old fuck did something for me.

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            Only from a Knowing Better video I watched a while back. Can’t recall much about it except from it seeming to be a heretical cult spinoff

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    one time in middle school i prayed for an xbox and a couple weeks later a boy who had a crush on me (but i didnt know that at the time) gave me his old original xbox and fable: tlc as he upgraded to a newer xbox. so ya religion is pretty nifty 😎

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      i also prayed that my school would burn down in the middle of the night multiple times but that never happened but at least i had an xbox

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      That isn’t how religion works though.

      You just got to steal the xbox, then pray for forgiveness.

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        lol i honestly never thought about that

        we went to a really small school (when i was in middle school there were like 15 students in the middle school and high school grades all combined, by the time i was in 12th there were 4 high school students all in different grades) so if i had to guess and give him the benefit of the doubt i’d guess that because we lived in such a small community and probably had a lot of mutual friends and connections, he probably just knew enough about me to know that i was into video games and my family was too poor to buy consoles/computers so i was still playing on a PS1 that my older siblings got for Christmas once while everyone else my age were on or moving to PS4 and (i think) Xbox One