• imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works
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    Many times. It’s never as rewarding as you’d like, because the other party is rarely objective, and thus rarely acknowledges their defeat.

    It’s usually better to ease up when you get close to a total victory and allow the opponent to save face.

    After all, no matter how objectively correct you are, if you don’t change the other person’s position even a little, you’re just wasting time.

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      I know someone that dismisses 95% of media as “Western media propaganda”. They include Al Jazeera in that list 🤦🏻‍♀️

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      IMO it’s even worse when the other party admits to their mistakes and apologizes.

      Takes out all the wind of your sails

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        I am someone who does that because I’m objective enough to recognize my own fallibility and that if I’m presented with reasonable and logical evidence, i will accept it and change my perspective.

        It also usually stops fighting and helps progress to a constructive discussion.

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          I do that, too, and I regularly get the “you’re always right, I’m always wrong” commentary. I respond, no, I’m often wrong, I just don’t make a big deal out of it so you don’t notice. I’d be happy to move on without a fuss when you’re wrong, too, if you’ll allow it.

          Because seriously, being wrong is not a big deal. Everybody is wrong at some point, and regularly. Just correct yourself and move on, it’s not a hit to your identity or person.

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            I agree wholeheartedly. Being wrong is a good thing sometimes, it means you are indeed living life and learning. There may subjectively be better things to be wrong about sometimes, but it’s usually only a big deal if you make it one.

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          Yeah I like to acknowledge when I’m wrong, it makes me think carefully next time I think I’m right about something, and to challenge my assumptions about things.