- cross-posted to:
- climate@slrpnk.net
- cross-posted to:
- climate@slrpnk.net
Only 30 years too late!
It’s too late to have no identifiable impact, but absolutely not too late to stabilize temperatures — every 1/10 of a degree matters, and it’s better that we do it now than wait until we’ve burned every last bit of coal, oil, and gas.
For sure! It’s just frustrating how long this has been a known issue.
More of the CO2 currently in the atmosphere has been put there since it was a known issue.
Depressing but a bad situation is better than a terrible one, so we must push on.
It looks really great. Implemented policies are for nearly stable emissions. Better then growth for sure, but still not even close to enough.
For sure. Actually winning a civilization-supporting planet is going to be a decades-long fight to get things to where we need to be
might have
ROFL
There are some indicators that Chinese coal consumption might have peaked a couple months back. Not definite yet, but a very real possibility
Chinese coal is so much more complicated than people give it credit for.
Provincial leaders don’t want to risk looking bad by having to import electricity from other provinces so they build coal plants then have hilariously low usage rates. They’re basically building coal peaker plants comma but the overall Chinese economy/party wants them to be building solar and other renewable tech because China is the manufacturer of that tech.
The result is that they’re building more power plants that have increasingly low utilization rates. Declining utilization rates even as they build more of them. Basically because of stupid internal politics. Again, they’re using coal as peaker plants. Which is unimaginable to someone versed in US energy policy but that’s because we forget that the capital cost of construction largely doesn’t matter in China.
The far larger concern with Chinese coal is not their domestic policy, it’s their foreign industrial policy - it’s the outside markets they’re getting hooked on coal.
Long-term it’s a problem that will take care of itself ignoring climate catastrophe. Because, again China builds the renewable tech. They want the world buying from the long term. And I guess they see some short-term Merit in unloading bargain coal but they’re going to make a lot more selling PV. The issue is that we don’t have time to wait for that long-term.
Ironically the best policy to curtail Chinese coal is almost exactly what the US is doing - heavy investments in renewables. Hit those prices with learning curves to make fossils even less competitive than they already are. Make it so even the bargain tech doesn’t make sense for those developing nations to use.
Why doesn’t the Chinese federal government just ban new coal developments?
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That’s an article giving hope for sure. I don’t know how realistic it is. Maybe there’ll be an emmissions peak in 2024 while we should half emmissions by 2030.
The difficulty is: even if we’re peaking, we have only a few years to half these emmissions, which means there is no time at all to relax. We need to push even harder.
I’m worried about many countries switching to natural gas and declaring natural gas climate neutral. I believe this could be a big threat.
Sidenote: maybe I’m getting just old, but I did hard concentrate on that article where every other word is bold.