• Dasus@lemmy.world
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    I’m not helping Trump by not voting for Biden.

    Yes you are.

    Especially because the US doesn’t even employ direct presidential elections, but uses the electoral college. A third party candidate simply will not win. Any obfuscation of a clear win will make it that much easier for the electors to disregard the people.

    I’d like to remind you that Trump is still actively pretending the last time he didn’t lose, and even when he was elected president, it was against the popular vote.

    So yes, by not voting for Biden, you are helping Trump, like it or not. Which you clearly do, with the whole “this is why people don’t like democrats”. I’m not American, and you still result to trying to mock democrats, clearly implying you’re a republican.

    And thus you probably actually know you are helping Trump and you’re fine with it, you’re just ashamed of letting people know that’s what you actually think.

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      The democratic strategy of shaming people for not voting for your candidate instead of shaming your candidate for committing a genocide is an odd strategy…

      Keep it up, you’re only making people not want to vote for Biden even more.

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        Do you understand that the US isn’t a democracy? You can live in your fantasies, I can’t help that — and again, I’m not American — but that won’t change the political reality you live in.

        You don’t live in a democracy. Your vote can already be ignored. And you’re ready to throw it away, instead of voting against Trump?

        Voting for Biden doesn’t mean you agree with him, ffs.

        I have a horse in this race because the US is already infamous for it’s crass foreign policy.

        And you want to give Trump a better chance of winning?

        Do you understand that the last time he “won”, he didn’t even have the popular vote?

        And you’re trying to make it easier for the US to become a vassal state to Russia? Trump is Putin’s whore, and his only chance.

        If Trump wins, it’s an actual threat to democracy everywhere on this planet, however indirectly.

        So I don’t care if you have to vote for another shitty president who doesn’t care about foreigners dying, it’s nothing new to you. As long as it’s not the illiterate orange clown who is in Putin’s pocket. And you don’t seem to have a lot of choice, realistically, do you?

        If I were as generalising as you, I’d write “this is why people hate Americans” but I know not everyone from the US is like you.

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            So youre saying you’re so easy to influence that a stranger online affects your voting decisions? Oh golly.

            Why do you reply if you ignore everything I say?

            When Trump was elected, he didn’t actually have the majority vote.

            And you think it’s realistic for a third party candidate to win because of your vote, despite several presidents having lost the presidency despite winning the popular vote?

            Do you support Trump?

            Do you support Putin?

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              Yall neo libs are cheering on a genocide. Ofcourse I wouldn’t want to vote for your party. Democrats are the party of genocide.

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                So, to reiterate, you’re not getting the point that I’m not American, or… you’re just not aware that your political labels don’t apply world-wide?

                Secondly, the active ignoring of “do you support Trump” and “do you support Putin” tell a tale of their own. Mainly that you probably don’t want to say that you don’t support either. Anyone supporting Putin and Trump are more likely Putin fans, who just understand that Trump winning is the only chance Putin has. Which is why they would like for people to not vote for Biden. Because that’s how sad Putin’s situation is. He’s cowering in a bunker, like Hitler before he killed himself. Which is probably the best option Putin has when Biden wins.

                Which is why you’re so desperate for your one-note insult at Biden, because Russian information warfare is so shit you think that’s enough. People aren’t voting for Biden, but against Trump.

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                  Fuck Trump Fuck Biden Fuck Putin Fuck Zelensky Fuck Netanyahu

                  There ya go, did i cover all the things I’m supposed to say to make you happy? Almost forgot

                  Fuck you

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                    “Fuck Zelensky”

                    Uhm, yeah, tell me more, Russian bot.

                    If you’re actually American, them why won’t you answer about me asking if you know America is not a democracy, and that by voting for a third party, you’re definitely making the rise of fascism more likely?