• originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com
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    1 month ago

    youre going to get a lot of hate for stating facts.

    theres a huge contingent here on lemmy who really want fascism to win, so theyre attempting to guilt people into voting for a 3rd party

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      1 month ago

      Fascism is already winning. It’s going to win regardless of whether we vote for Trump or Biden. That’s just the reality of it. Vote for whoever the fuck you want. That’s your freedom. Just know that in America, the ruling class will never part with even a shred of their power.

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        1 month ago

        Giving up and giving in are the same thing to the ruling class. They appreciate your support…not you specifically, but rather the investment they’ve made to make you accept their rule as fate.

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          It’s not giving up; it’s acknowledging the reality of the Groundhog Day movie we’re stuck in, and doing what you will with that information. This endless circle of the working class bickering over “the lesser of two evils” every 4 years needs to end.

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            Sure, as soon as the working class realizes that isn’t the choice. The choice is obvious. People voting for the right, the party for the owner class are being tricked into voting for the same bosses that treat them like shit.

            This prevents the working class people from being elected because the cost of running has been driven up by the right so all we have left are weathly democrats and those that aren’t, those that made the mistake of baretending are ridiculed and the working class who votes right join in the piling.

            They are class traitors and need this both sides narrative to justify being played for the fools they are

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              It’s a situation with no correct answer, and that’s what makes it so frustrating. That’s generally why I point out that we’re just looking at different flavors of fascism, but people should still vote however the hell they want, or don’t.

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        1 month ago

        i hate the dems as useless conservatives, but this ‘BoTh SideS aRe thE SAME’ argument is crap.

        you might as well just say ‘everyone give up, humanity is over’.

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          It’s not giving up though; it’s acknowledging a reality and making a decision with that information. The alternative is that we get stuck in this nauseating infinite loop of voting for “the lesser of two evils,” while the working class bicker. Both sides aren’t the same, but they lead to the same outcome—as we’ve seen over and over. This is the trap they have put us in and these are the intended results.

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          Humanity isn’t over, but America is. Its already fascist, and now we just wait for the empire to crumble.

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      1 month ago

      This comment is, in and of itself, facist.

      • Identification of enemies as a unifying cause (leftists)

      • Attacking anybody left of mid right biden for sowing political disunity and furthering degeneracy / good ole blatant misinformation (claims that third party voters just want Trump)

      • Insistence that “ONLY WE” can save the country.

      • Appeals to totalitarianism (“Only one of these two can be chosen”)

      America is already fascist, has been, and Democrats are just blue MAGA - Which is why they don’t mind Republicans and dedicate their lives to attacking the left while blaming us for any and every loss (another faschie tactic.)