• hdnsmbt@lemmy.world
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    4 days ago

    Citizens will not stop a coup attempt using guns. You’re watching too many movies. Be realistic.

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      3 days ago

      Idk it seems like everytime a trained, well-equipped military goes up against a bunch of farmers the military loses so I’m not sure I agree with you.

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        3 days ago

        Right, when was the last time that happened on us soil again?

        Also, do you actually see Americans as some kind of guerilleros? With current obesity numbers, there’s no hiding in improvised shelters for most. Let alone simple but crucial things like “running”. Did you think of how the country isn’t totally unknown to the military, negating one of the major advantages for defenders in past such situations?

        By all means, do not agree with me. You can’t convince me you actually believe us citizens have a fighting chance against the fucking us military, though. Absolutely delusional!

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          3 days ago

          Students of history disagree. Remember when they told us we’d smash Vietnam in a month? Remember when they said the same thing about Iraq? You can come up with all the “but it’s different this time!” you like, I agree we probably won’t come to an agreement on this, have a nice day.

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            3 days ago

            Why are you ignoring my questions? I don’t remember anybody saying “Iraqis are probably too fat and complacent for guerilla tactics”. “Students of history” won’t disagree that there’s a huge difference between the 1970s us army fighting guerilleros in Vietnam and the 21st century us army fighting a bunch of tacticool idiots on us soil.

            Did you notice that your only argument is “nah, it wouldn’t be different” without any substantiation?

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              3 days ago

              Why are you ignoring my questions?

              I don’t owe you an argument. I’ve stated my position and you’ve stated yours. Have a nice Friday.

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                2 days ago

                I made an argument and you went “nuh-uh!” Sorry I tried to have a conversation with you, I guess. Maybe reflect on what you expect from making online comments.

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                  2 days ago

                  Actually you made the statement “Citizens will not stop a coup attempt using guns. You’re watching too many movies. Be realistic.” And I replied idk farmers seem to have a pretty good track record. Then you doubled down to start arguing which I’m not interested in because it’s been discussed a million times and we likely will not come to an agreement. So again, have a nice Friday.

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                    2 days ago

                    Yeah, I remember how you conflated Jan 6 with a military invasion. I then explained (argued even, you might say) how the scenario you’re referencing has little in common with the us military engaging fat gun enthusiasts on us soil, to which you replied “nuh-uh!”

                    Now that we’re all up to speed, can you elaborate on how you imagine citizens stop an actual military coup? Tanks are rolling up to seize the white house and there’s Kevin (a farmer!!) with both his AR15s, a Desert Eagle and really cool shades. What’s happening next in your fantasy?

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      3 days ago

      WDYM, it’s not like the structural problems of capitalism would favor fascists if we provide a market for buying guns. It’s not like fascists are the ones with more money and time from owning a business or something. I would totally show up to defend my country from a coup as long as it coincides with my work break. /s