In Taiwan, nobody uses iMessage. It’s an app called Line and it’s basically the WeChat of Taiwan.
So we can basically hop from Apple to Android without issues with our messages. So that’s why the % of Apple users are not inflated because of the dark patterns they are doing in the US.
In Europe everyone uses WhatsApp and I‘d rather use iMessage than sell my soul to meta…
(Which I am. And Signal and Telegram. Only using WhatsApp for work)
I live in Poland, and most people use Meta’s Messenger here, although some people use WhatsApp and some also Telegram (but mostly Ukrainians and Belarusians).
Personally I use regular old plain SMS, Messenger, Telegram or Discord depending on situation.
Unfortunately, I don’t trust Apple either. I think Telegram or Signal might be a good option, but then again. They are just a CEO away from it being shitty.
I wish there was a better solution that is OSS but it won’t catch on.
I think they sell the perception of privacy. They might not sell your data, but they certainly use that data to sell to you. They only care about profits and any privacy that you think you might have is just a byproduct of that greed.
Apple is an optics company and damn good at it too.
I know Apple aren’t perfect but they are the only major tech company that even try to seem like they take privacy seriously. Obviously, we don’t know how much data they actually harvest but at least they say it’s all private and on device. They make a believable case for their product actually being their hardware. You even pay extra for that. Meta, Google, Microsoft & Co. are pretty open, that all they want is your data and that you are the product. So, unless you want to go the extra mile and actively pursue privacy (get ungoogled android or a Linux phone, and only use open source software, etc.), Apple seems to be your best bet, imo
Normies will use Apple because they claim to have privacy in their forefront. Nerds like me degoogle and don’t use social media(unless you count this… What is Lemmy?).
It’s easier to go Apple. Difficult to use Android and own your privacy.
Yeah, this text messaging is very different the all over the world. Different phones, different carrier policies and different apps have resulted in different nations being invested in different platforms.
SMS, and things that piggy back on it, dominate north America. So this will mean more to those users than people in Europe, Asia, etc.
Well, having an app that isn’t tried down by an OS would be great. You could install Google meet on an iphone. Apple is just trying to take more market share.
Alternative SMS / RCS apps in iOS would be very nice to have.
That said, people who are buying iPhones are usually buying iPhones because they like Apple’s experiences. People that want more options for default apps tend to be going to Android.
At least with SMS / RCS, people can buy a different phone and explore different clients. When I talk to my friends and family in countries dominated by Line, WeChat, or WhatsApp, I’m kind of stuck dealing with those crappy user experiences. Those companies want to trap me in their user experiences and there are even fewer alternatives if I want to interact on their platforms.
In Taiwan, nobody uses iMessage. It’s an app called Line and it’s basically the WeChat of Taiwan.
So we can basically hop from Apple to Android without issues with our messages. So that’s why the % of Apple users are not inflated because of the dark patterns they are doing in the US.
In Europe everyone uses WhatsApp and I‘d rather use iMessage than sell my soul to meta… (Which I am. And Signal and Telegram. Only using WhatsApp for work)
I live in Poland, and most people use Meta’s Messenger here, although some people use WhatsApp and some also Telegram (but mostly Ukrainians and Belarusians).
Personally I use regular old plain SMS, Messenger, Telegram or Discord depending on situation.
Ah yes, Facebook Messenger. The only chat app I’d hate using even more than WhatsApp…
Unfortunately, I don’t trust Apple either. I think Telegram or Signal might be a good option, but then again. They are just a CEO away from it being shitty.
I wish there was a better solution that is OSS but it won’t catch on.
I trust them a bit more than meta or google. Meta‘s main business model is selling data/ads. Apple’s main business model is selling hardware.
I think they sell the perception of privacy. They might not sell your data, but they certainly use that data to sell to you. They only care about profits and any privacy that you think you might have is just a byproduct of that greed.
Apple is an optics company and damn good at it too.
I know Apple aren’t perfect but they are the only major tech company that even try to seem like they take privacy seriously. Obviously, we don’t know how much data they actually harvest but at least they say it’s all private and on device. They make a believable case for their product actually being their hardware. You even pay extra for that. Meta, Google, Microsoft & Co. are pretty open, that all they want is your data and that you are the product. So, unless you want to go the extra mile and actively pursue privacy (get ungoogled android or a Linux phone, and only use open source software, etc.), Apple seems to be your best bet, imo
Normies will use Apple because they claim to have privacy in their forefront. Nerds like me degoogle and don’t use social media(unless you count this… What is Lemmy?).
It’s easier to go Apple. Difficult to use Android and own your privacy.
There are things like Matrix.
Unfortunately it lacks things like video chat. :(
I think they’re working on that but yea like all open source software it’s a bit janky of a user experience.
Ya, I tried it. Not great. I also tried the Synology Chat which is basically slack.
European here, this is just wrong, I don’t use WhatsApp, nor does my friends or family
Everyone was an exaggeration, obviously. WhatsApp is still very prominent and the primary messaging service in large parts of Europe.
The advantage of iMessage is SMS fallback when you don’t have internet access.
In this day and age it’s more likely that you don’t have voice minutes or SMS quota remaining than you not having internet access.
Usually when you don’t have internet access, it’s because you don’t have any signal at all.
Yeah, this text messaging is very different the all over the world. Different phones, different carrier policies and different apps have resulted in different nations being invested in different platforms.
SMS, and things that piggy back on it, dominate north America. So this will mean more to those users than people in Europe, Asia, etc.
Well, having an app that isn’t tried down by an OS would be great. You could install Google meet on an iphone. Apple is just trying to take more market share.
Alternative SMS / RCS apps in iOS would be very nice to have.
That said, people who are buying iPhones are usually buying iPhones because they like Apple’s experiences. People that want more options for default apps tend to be going to Android.
At least with SMS / RCS, people can buy a different phone and explore different clients. When I talk to my friends and family in countries dominated by Line, WeChat, or WhatsApp, I’m kind of stuck dealing with those crappy user experiences. Those companies want to trap me in their user experiences and there are even fewer alternatives if I want to interact on their platforms.