remember half the passengers in your metaphorical car are also screaming to hit the gas harder.
Your ire is misdirected at democrats when you should be talking about the propaganda machine from fossil fuel companies and Fox News brainwashing people into making it a culture war. Democrats do what they can, the problem is they can do very little when most people really don’t give a shit (or worse).
did you even read the rest of my comment? Also you can’t say the democrats are “in power” when passing legislation requires more votes than they actually control. How do you plan to accomplish the kinds of goals you’re looking for with less than 60 senate votes?
Motherfucker, you’re not understanding. The idea that “I don’t have enough votes in this made up fascist government to pass effective climate legislation” means that it’s acceptable to give up is climate change denial. This is not a matter where we have the liberty of sitting around and playing nice with fascists for decades on end. We need to make radical change now.
If the rules say that you can’t make radical change now then break the rules, if the fascists try to stop you then it’s a war. So be it. The alternative is the end of the world.
What’s this “radical change” and why haven’t you made it happen yet? Like what are you actually doing other than shouting into the void about other people doing the wrong thing? Even if someone reads your post and is like “yeah that’s right” what are they actually supposed to do next? What rules are we supposed to break?
Before we can do anything, we need an organized group of people who can agree on what needs to be done. Before we have that, we have to identify that what is being done isn’t enough. People who believe that the Democrats are doing enough on this topic aren’t going to organize with us for radical change.
What are we supposed to do? End the use of fossil fuels and transition to solar, wind, hydro, geothermal, nuclear power in whatever configuration the experts determine is necessary. End the use of cars outside of necessary exceptions and transition most transport to trains and bikes. End animal agriculture. Democrats are not doing these things, do not want to do these things, will not do these things. You have to recognize that Democrats are your enemy just as much as Republicans.
Before we can do anything, we need an organized group of people who can agree on what needs to be done. Before we have that, we have to identify that what is being done isn’t enough.
and to do that, you need to stop the climate change denial propaganda. exactly what I said from the beginning. the government is never going to have power to do anything if half the country is brainwashed.
the government is never going to have power to do anything if half the country is brainwashed.
Lmao what the fuck are you talking about? Somehow this never stops Republicans from passing all sorts of repugnant legislation, but ask a Democrat to do something good and suddenly passing any legislation ever is impossible
If the rules say that you can’t make radical change now then break the rules, if the fascists try to stop you then it’s a war. So be it. The alternative is the end of the world.
okay, so you’re not talking about functional government anymore, you’re talking about revolution. If your plan was to sit back and wait for democrats to do that… lol.
remember half the passengers in your metaphorical car are also screaming to hit the gas harder.
Your ire is misdirected at democrats when you should be talking about the propaganda machine from fossil fuel companies and Fox News brainwashing people into making it a culture war. Democrats do what they can, the problem is they can do very little when most people really don’t give a shit (or worse).
Poor little helpless Democrats just can’t do anything good because the big bad mean Republicans are stopping them, even when they’re the ones in power
How can you be so pathetic lmao, the definition of controlled opposition.
did you even read the rest of my comment? Also you can’t say the democrats are “in power” when passing legislation requires more votes than they actually control. How do you plan to accomplish the kinds of goals you’re looking for with less than 60 senate votes?
Motherfucker, you’re not understanding. The idea that “I don’t have enough votes in this made up fascist government to pass effective climate legislation” means that it’s acceptable to give up is climate change denial. This is not a matter where we have the liberty of sitting around and playing nice with fascists for decades on end. We need to make radical change now.
If the rules say that you can’t make radical change now then break the rules, if the fascists try to stop you then it’s a war. So be it. The alternative is the end of the world.
What’s this “radical change” and why haven’t you made it happen yet? Like what are you actually doing other than shouting into the void about other people doing the wrong thing? Even if someone reads your post and is like “yeah that’s right” what are they actually supposed to do next? What rules are we supposed to break?
Before we can do anything, we need an organized group of people who can agree on what needs to be done. Before we have that, we have to identify that what is being done isn’t enough. People who believe that the Democrats are doing enough on this topic aren’t going to organize with us for radical change.
What are we supposed to do? End the use of fossil fuels and transition to solar, wind, hydro, geothermal, nuclear power in whatever configuration the experts determine is necessary. End the use of cars outside of necessary exceptions and transition most transport to trains and bikes. End animal agriculture. Democrats are not doing these things, do not want to do these things, will not do these things. You have to recognize that Democrats are your enemy just as much as Republicans.
and to do that, you need to stop the climate change denial propaganda. exactly what I said from the beginning. the government is never going to have power to do anything if half the country is brainwashed.
Lmao what the fuck are you talking about? Somehow this never stops Republicans from passing all sorts of repugnant legislation, but ask a Democrat to do something good and suddenly passing any legislation ever is impossible
Controlled. Opposition.
please watch some schoolhouse rock and get back to me.
good thing that’s not at all what I said.
okay, so you’re not talking about functional government anymore, you’re talking about revolution. If your plan was to sit back and wait for democrats to do that… lol.
Yes, of course I’m talking about revolution. That is what is necessary.