• Firestorm Druid@lemmy.zip
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    Just disregard the hundreds of thousands of people who died in those bombings. It’s not as bad as you think. What doesn’t kill you makes you- wait

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      Fat man was the “big” one and it was 22 kiloton yield…

      A modern ICBM from American subs is 455 kilotons, Russian icbms (if they work) are around 800 kilotons.

      There are zero scenarios where just a single ICBM is launched, but even if America just launched one and no one else retaliated…

      That’s well over 10x what was dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki combined.

      These idiots think a M80 is the same as a stick of dynamite…

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      The death toll of other people isn’t relevant to them. What’s important to Elon is that if Elon wanted he could go to either city and have a wonderful time, and therefore no harm, no foul. All that matters to Elon is what Elon thinks and feels, there is no larger world beyond what he directly interacts with.

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      Elon repeatedly said he’s fine with sacrifices made for the sake of progress. It’s just that he thinks others should be doing sacrifices and he should be the guy doing progress. Very convenient for a narcissistic manbaby.

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    I immediately thought of this joke:

    A fellow was stuck on his rooftop in a flood. He was praying to God for help.

    Soon a man in a rowboat came by and the fellow shouted to the man on the roof, “Jump in, I can save you.”

    The stranded fellow shouted back, “No, it’s OK, I’m praying to God and he is going to save me.”

    So the rowboat went on.

    Then a motorboat came by. “The fellow in the motorboat shouted, “Jump in, I can save you.”

    To this the stranded man said, “No thanks, I’m praying to God and he is going to save me. I have faith.”

    So the motorboat went on.

    Then a helicopter came by and the pilot shouted down, “Grab this rope and I will lift you to safety.”

    To this the stranded man again replied, “No thanks, I’m praying to God and he is going to save me. I have faith.”

    So the helicopter reluctantly flew away.

    Soon the water rose above the rooftop and the man drowned. He went to Heaven. He finally got his chance to discuss this whole situation with God, at which point he exclaimed, “I had faith in you but you didn’t save me, you let me drown. I don’t understand why!”

    To this God replied, “I sent you a rowboat and a motorboat and a helicopter, what more did you expect?”

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      3 months ago

      And the guy replied, “yeah but those were all owned by Jeffrey Epstein and his buddies. I was hoping for some transportation not piloted by a rapist.”

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        and God said, “listen to me you little shit, you should’ve thought of that before you went on that island”

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    This post appears to show that they’re arguing that nuclear bombs “aren’t that bad”, as it’s missing the important context that they’re actually talking about the safety of nuclear power — or, rather, they’re arguing that nuclear power isn’t as dangerous as people might think — by using the lingering radiation from the nuclear bombings as an example.

    I want to be clear that I’m not arguing that their argument is sound, but this post is bordering on disinformation.

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        I live thousand miles and almost 40 years away from the Chernobyl disaster. And still we have to test and dispose boar meat regularly because of over the top Caesium-137 polution.

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        ok… so that just shows they’re idiots.

        And if that’s the case, one should explain why that is rather than trying to twist the truth to fit a narrative.

        there was not much radiation because most of it was scattered EVERYWHERE. and the radioactive material was very shortlived. Chernobyl is still very hot, especially in the immediate surrounding areas and nothing like after being nuked as the radioactive material left behind is very long lived

        I agree.

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        The total lifetime death toll from Chernobyl including cases of cancer from decades later, is estimated to top out at 80,000 lives.

        Local pollution from coal power plants (not even counting the CO2) takes 80,000 lives per year.

        The single worst nuclear power disaster in history, which required everything to go wrong and which would be impossible based on modern safety procedures, is still no worse than business as usual for coal.

        In fact, if you compare modern nuclear against solar power, solar is actually the more deadly form of energy, because of workers falling off roofs.

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      You have to remember that this is the man who had to be told he couldn’t bomb hurricanes.

      He’s just shedding all those smart-assed sciency folks that say complicated gubbins like “fallout” and “but Sir, people live there!”

      If you’re preparing to be el presidente for life, you need people with a can-do attitude.

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    Perhaps he meant that it’s not as bad as some people think that nuclear bombs make areas uninhabitable for 1000 of years. I think a lot of people probably think that. Disregarding injuries and death

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      3 months ago

      If that’s what he meant he should have phrased it that way. Otherwise, even if we assume what you wrote is true, he sounds like a person insensitive to mass murder.

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      It’s also ignoring 80 years of advancement from literally the first nuclear bombs…

      A modern one would make an area uninhabitable for centuries and spread radiation around the majority of the planet. And the destructive force of the blast would flatten like 10x the area.