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    3 months ago

    Solar + batt in China is currently cheaper than coal and natgas.

    Solar is a 100% mature technology that promises to provide further cost savings over existing technologies, and has reasonable odds of reaching the 1 cent per kWh point, where solar is competitive with fusion.

    Fission can’t scale to that point; the main point of fission is that it can produce reactors for warships and submarines, as well as uranium for fission, boosted fission, and thermonuclear weapons.

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      the main point of fission is that it’s a clean form of power generation that is very consistent unlike solar or wind. batteries are supposed to help, but you still want a consistent form of power in case of a long stretch of bad luck with weather. Fusion is still decades off of being price competitive barring a major breakthrough in something like a roomtemp super conductor.

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        Iirc my math was for 3x overbuilding on solar and using massive battery banks, although the 4 cents per kwh figure assumes 1.5x overbuilding and enough batteries to capture all of a summer day’s generation.

        Fission and solar are actually enemies because the extreme intermittency of solar overloads the grid in the summer, and provides no energy at night. Coal and natgas have fast generation spoolup, whereas nuclear takes too long, hence solar forces nuclear off the grid.

        Ultimately, solar is here. At present prices, in China, at least, panels with battery can compete with natgas and coal for total generation.

        With further reduction in battery prices (40 USD is the marginal cost of batteries), and multi-junction carbon or carbon silicon, we probably can get solar + batt to completely replace all existing fossil fuels, as well as limit fission and fusion to baseload or strategically crucial power supplies.