I couldn’t disagree more, I see human nature as something more nurtured than innate, and traces of healed wounds on bones found on archaeological sites rather demonstrate that caring for the weak, the community, prevailed over selfishness. Let’s pretend it is as you say: even then, our nature isn’t something immutable, else, males would still drag their female to the cave by the hair whenever they want to mate, and it would be seen as socially acceptable. This can change through time and conscious efforts (even negatively, and it won’t surprise you if I say that it’s how I see our current individualism and glorification of power-mongering).
Personally, I don’t see a forceful change as viable; it should be done slowly and steadily while ensuring that outside forces don’t hinder the movement, or distort it to their own benefit. But first, we should throw away this warped crap that is Marxism-Leninism once and for all, draw the useful conclusions from its failures, and adapt the movement accordingly; evolving is after all supposed to be one of communism’s core components (just like humans, dare I say).
Your points make little sense regarding human nature.
In a world of houndeds saving one is a necessary thing for the groups survival.
In a world of Billions, you just replace a lost one with the next, just like we replace broken parts in a Mashine, its a unfortunate truth that everyone is replaceable now, even if we hypothetically clean a entire country out of existence, it would barely impact the rest of humanity, shure it would be in the news a few days, but after that… I doubt you feel actually sorry when hearing or even seeing death to strangers, same with misery, you might think about it for a few weeks, but it goes away and your life goes on. Thats why communism is absolutely impossible.
What is possible is a social market economy, wich is a democratic system but with limitations on capitalistic problems to ensure that even the lowest of society aren’t treated like human garbage. But even that is hard to implement in places like China or USA.
There is no perfection, especially in Politics, there will always be pros and cons to everything.
The Way we chose and will choose will always be paved with corpses and misery. It will never change unless we change the human itself.
Your points make little sense regarding human nature.
I kindly throw that ball back at you. To humor your vision of an immutable nature, it urges us more to run naked in the woods among our close relatives than to form planet-scale social structures. But again, I’ll pretend it’s how things are (accounting for the whole comment, not just the quoted part): the answer appears as evident as reducing the scale of our social structures, and work towards degrowth; and hey, it just so happens to be the form of communism I’m advocating for! 😛
I doubt you feel actually sorry when hearing or even seeing death to strangers
Just wanted to specifically touch on that: first, I find it detrimental to a sane analysis to assume our own vision of things as the norm, you’d be better of if able to detach yourself further, but you do you.
And second, do you need a strong emotional response to something in order to care about it? Having been emotionally numb for as long as I can remember, it’s something I genuinely can’t understand. Seeing things through an analytical lens as well as my values is enough, I don’t need to feel outraged by something to keep in mind at long term that it should be addressed: envisioning a feminicide, a school-shooting, or a mining accident as the result of (to grossly and simplistically summarize) a lack of education, lack of proper mental care, or lacking/exploitative policies, and acting accordingly at my level seems, to use the term once again, more sane.
Ah, here’s the issue: my mind was set on a casual exchange, yours on wanting to come out on top.
you have the same mindset as a conspiracy theorist
Would you mind elaborating on this, even succinctly?
Edit: well then, I’ll have to guess that it’s bouncing off and answering when in a discussion, as well as advising to take a step back when analyzing, that makes me the same as a conspiracy theorist 🤣
I couldn’t disagree more, I see human nature as something more nurtured than innate, and traces of healed wounds on bones found on archaeological sites rather demonstrate that caring for the weak, the community, prevailed over selfishness. Let’s pretend it is as you say: even then, our nature isn’t something immutable, else, males would still drag their female to the cave by the hair whenever they want to mate, and it would be seen as socially acceptable. This can change through time and conscious efforts (even negatively, and it won’t surprise you if I say that it’s how I see our current individualism and glorification of power-mongering).
Personally, I don’t see a forceful change as viable; it should be done slowly and steadily while ensuring that outside forces don’t hinder the movement, or distort it to their own benefit. But first, we should throw away this warped crap that is Marxism-Leninism once and for all, draw the useful conclusions from its failures, and adapt the movement accordingly; evolving is after all supposed to be one of communism’s core components (just like humans, dare I say).
Your points make little sense regarding human nature.
In a world of houndeds saving one is a necessary thing for the groups survival.
In a world of Billions, you just replace a lost one with the next, just like we replace broken parts in a Mashine, its a unfortunate truth that everyone is replaceable now, even if we hypothetically clean a entire country out of existence, it would barely impact the rest of humanity, shure it would be in the news a few days, but after that… I doubt you feel actually sorry when hearing or even seeing death to strangers, same with misery, you might think about it for a few weeks, but it goes away and your life goes on. Thats why communism is absolutely impossible.
What is possible is a social market economy, wich is a democratic system but with limitations on capitalistic problems to ensure that even the lowest of society aren’t treated like human garbage. But even that is hard to implement in places like China or USA.
There is no perfection, especially in Politics, there will always be pros and cons to everything.
The Way we chose and will choose will always be paved with corpses and misery. It will never change unless we change the human itself.
I kindly throw that ball back at you. To humor your vision of an immutable nature, it urges us more to run naked in the woods among our close relatives than to form planet-scale social structures. But again, I’ll pretend it’s how things are (accounting for the whole comment, not just the quoted part): the answer appears as evident as reducing the scale of our social structures, and work towards degrowth; and hey, it just so happens to be the form of communism I’m advocating for! 😛
Just wanted to specifically touch on that: first, I find it detrimental to a sane analysis to assume our own vision of things as the norm, you’d be better of if able to detach yourself further, but you do you.
And second, do you need a strong emotional response to something in order to care about it? Having been emotionally numb for as long as I can remember, it’s something I genuinely can’t understand. Seeing things through an analytical lens as well as my values is enough, I don’t need to feel outraged by something to keep in mind at long term that it should be addressed: envisioning a feminicide, a school-shooting, or a mining accident as the result of (to grossly and simplistically summarize) a lack of education, lack of proper mental care, or lacking/exploitative policies, and acting accordingly at my level seems, to use the term once again, more sane.
Stay in your Pipe dream.
Very mature. Bravo…
Arguing with you brings me no further in life and just costs my lifetime, you have the same mindset as a conspiracy theorist, i won’t change that.
Ah, here’s the issue: my mind was set on a casual exchange, yours on wanting to come out on top.
Would you mind elaborating on this, even succinctly?
Edit: well then, I’ll have to guess that it’s bouncing off and answering when in a discussion, as well as advising to take a step back when analyzing, that makes me the same as a conspiracy theorist 🤣