• atro_city@fedia.io
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    7 days ago

    Also, *gestures wildly around themself* look at the state the world is in. Which sane person would want to bring a child into this fucked up world?

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      6 days ago

      Well, you and similar people know the world is fucked up, but there’s a lot more people out there swimming in the ignorance of simply believing everything is fine or that the people raising problems are catastrophising and that everything will somehow work out.

      Those people will keep having kids even if basically every sign pointed to the certainty of that kid’s life ending early during some kind of traumatic existential struggle.

      There’s just a percentage of society who simply don’t put in much thought beyond their immediate existence and future. That’s almost definitely bad in the grand scheme of things, but I guess on the flip side, they potentially live happier lives in ignorance before getting blipped out of existence.

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        6 days ago

        I don’t own a house with fortified bunker and a literal ton of food. Can’t buy a house to begin with. Being a doomer is for the rich.

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          6 days ago

          Why do you need a house, a bunker? Being a doomer is being pessimistic about global problems, not prepping for the apocalypse.

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            6 days ago

            Ah, indeed. I was mixing up doomer with prepper. Regardless, you don’t have to be a doomer to think the world is shit. You can be hopeful that things will change, but not want to submit an innocent person on pure hope that things will improve.

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              6 days ago

              The “innocent person on pure hope that things will improve” is 100% doomerism.

              I live in a box of 6 flats. 4 of the people have kids, the other guy is renting to have a place to come back to when they return from working abroad. All of the flats at 40m2, people earning a fraction of a salary people in the US do, when the cost of living is maybe 80% of the US. Yet nobody is starving, the kids have a great life, parents are happy. Life goes on as it always has, with couples marrying, having kids, growing old together. This isn’t something that’s somehow unique to here, happens everywhere.

              If you want kids, you can get them, support them and give them a bright future. If you don’t want them, fine, just don’t say you can’t have children because the world sucks.

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        6 days ago

        lol ok. You’re looking at everything and then arguing that the people who notice things are bad.