• ericflo@lemmy.ml
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    1 year ago

    Am I living in a different planet from the rest of the commenters here? We have much more to gain from this than they do.

      • Qazwsxedcrfv000@lemmy.unknownsys.com
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        1 year ago

        Basically the sequence of events as claimed by the author is that:

        1. XMPP small niche, small circles
        2. Google launches Talk that was XMPP compatible
        3. Millions joined Talk that could coop XMPP in theory
        4. The coop worked only sparingly and was unidirectional, i.e. Talk to XMPP ✅ but XMPP to Talk ❌
        5. Talk sucked up existing XMPP users as it was obviously a better option (bandwagon effect + unidirectional “compatibility” with XMPP)
        6. Talk defederated

        This demonstrated exactly the importance of reciprocity. If Meta plays dirty, defederate them then. Now is just too premature. Also frankly it is Meta that has more to lose than the fediverse at this moment as the bulk of users and thus the content are with Meta.

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          1 year ago

          If Meta plays dirty, defederate them then. Now is just too premature.

          HARD disagree. Meta has been fighting dirty since their inception. There is no reason to put even the smallest bit of trust in them, and every reason to do the opposite. Everything they touch turns to shit, it follows then that you should never allow them to touch that which you hold dear

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      1 year ago

      Not really no.

      The process of “embrace, extend and extinguish” has been used multiple times to destroy FLOSS projects from the inside.

      Of the top of my head:

      • Kerberos
      • Office formats
      • XMPP

      I’ve just got back from a run so my brain is not fully connected, so others can give other examples.

      Meta do not want to join the party for fun. They want to join because it is the only way they can smother it.