• jenesaisquoi@feddit.org
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    28 days ago

    Ahat about lithium production? Do you know much heavily contaminated water that leaves behind?

    I don’t have an ICE car, by the way. Nor will I buy one.

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      28 days ago

      Are you conceding that you were indeed making shit up in your previous comment?

      Ahat about lithium production?

      Nowhere near as bad as what goes on with fossil fuel production.

      I don’t have an ICE car, by the way. Nor will I buy one.

      Ok?

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          27 days ago

          No, making shit up is making shit up.

          I’m being terse with you because you’re spreading disinformation about EVs that was thoroughly debunked years ago.

          Then, when corrected, you’re just jumping to the next piece of disinformation.

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      27 days ago

      The basic fact is that mining sucks and cars (or for that matter, most other technical products) are not environmentally friendly. However, the scale of these issues varies for different products. And to the point of scale:

      Yearly consumption of fossil fuels vs. Yearly amount of materials for green transition

      I’ll admit, the specifics and the source on this infographic are “trust me bro” because I forgot where I screenshotted it from. The takeaway is this, though: The necessary level of materials mining for electrified products and green energy does not compare to the level of fossil fuels drilling needed otherwise. In addition, battery materials can be recycled pretty well, so you only need to mine them once. Fossil fuels can not be recycled.

      In any case, it’s a good idea to question where all of the things you own and consume come from. It’s a good thing to fight for supply-chain laws. However, detractors of green energies systematically exaggerate environmental impacts precisely because the technologies they propose are massively dirtier.

      As to lithium in particular: Lithium from South America indeed has large environmental ramifications. However, most lithium is in fact mined in Australia in a completely different process.