• ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
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      The problem there is getting the initial seed funding. Investors put money into companies because they want to have control over the company, and they can’t do that with a cooperative. There is a systemic bias towards capitalist company structure because of that.

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        Investors want to make money above all. You can issue bonds with favorable interest rates as long as you have a solid business.

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          The reality clearly demonstrates that investors don’t bother investing in coops. You’ve obviously never actually tried to get investors to invest in a coop.

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            No I haven’t.

            But I expect that the search for people who want to participate in an expanding cooperative is the bigger problem.

            Do you know of a cooperative that wants to issue bonds?

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              I recommend learning a bit about the subject before arguing about it. Cooperatives don’t issue bonds because nobody is going to buy these bonds.

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                Or cooperatives don’t issue bonds because they believe that nobody will buy them.

                It’s the perfect investment for people who don’t want to participate in the usual capitalism.

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                  If you ever try starting a coop you’ll find out how hard it is to get investment in practice. It’s kind of hilarious that you think nobody thought of these obvious things to try before you.

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                    It’s not new but also not tried in a convincing way.

                    I believe that it is possible and that it’s worth trying until a working combination is found.