Dragon "Rider"(drag)@lemmy.nz to Trans Memes@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish · 5 days agoDrag didn't do that...lemmy.nzimagemessage-square42fedilinkarrow-up177arrow-down136
arrow-up141arrow-down1imageDrag didn't do that...lemmy.nzDragon "Rider"(drag)@lemmy.nz to Trans Memes@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish · 5 days agomessage-square42fedilink
minus-squarezagaberoo@beehaw.orglinkfedilinkarrow-up9·5 days agoThat makes sense, but what is the material difference? Isn’t it ultimately the same thing by a different name?
minus-squarePyroNeurosis@lemmy.blahaj.zonelinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up3arrow-down2·5 days agoMaterial difference of specific pronouns? Someone feels better, and I’m out no extra effort, I guess… It’s as much difference as personal preference in chocolate bar brands.
minus-squarezagaberoo@beehaw.orglinkfedilinkarrow-up9·5 days agoI totally get respecting specific pronouns, no confusion there. I don’t see how the scenario presented in OP is different from wanting to be referred to in the third person.
minus-squarePyroNeurosis@lemmy.blahaj.zonelinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up2arrow-down1·5 days agoAh! Effectively none. Which does bring up an unusual case: how should drag be referred to as part of a group? They and drag? Or would just they suffice?
minus-squareDragon "Rider"(drag)@lemmy.nzOPlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up2arrow-down1·4 days agoThey. It’s the same as if you refer to a group of people with a man in it. The “he” is discarded. Drag doesn’t use plural independent pronouns.
minus-squarejerkface@lemmy.calinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up2arrow-down1·3 days agoOkay but why not use the already gender-free pronouns I and you? That’s got nothing to do with being trans, does it?
minus-squareDragon "Rider"(drag)@lemmy.nzOPlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up2arrow-down1·3 days agoDon’t want to.
minus-squarezagaberoo@beehaw.orglinkfedilinkarrow-up2arrow-down1·5 days agoSome degree of identity erasure is inherent with mass pronouns; interesting question!
That makes sense, but what is the material difference? Isn’t it ultimately the same thing by a different name?
Material difference of specific pronouns? Someone feels better, and I’m out no extra effort, I guess…
It’s as much difference as personal preference in chocolate bar brands.
I totally get respecting specific pronouns, no confusion there.
I don’t see how the scenario presented in OP is different from wanting to be referred to in the third person.
Ah! Effectively none.
Which does bring up an unusual case: how should drag be referred to as part of a group? They and drag? Or would just they suffice?
They. It’s the same as if you refer to a group of people with a man in it. The “he” is discarded. Drag doesn’t use plural independent pronouns.
Okay but why not use the already gender-free pronouns I and you? That’s got nothing to do with being trans, does it?
Don’t want to.
Some degree of identity erasure is inherent with mass pronouns; interesting question!