First recognize the most important reason you’re losing, and I hate to be cliche about it, but it’s the Glengarry Glen Ross rule: coffee is for closers only. These are the Glengarry leads and they’re not for you losers.
The Dems simply suck at selling. They suck at critically self examining their own strategy and get high on their own supply—while hardcore Christians within the GOP are meticulously planning for years their long term plays for generational change in their favor. The Supreme Court is the ultimate example of this.
This has nothing to do with policy, being too right or left, etc. You simply (a) suck at selling, (b) are not clearly selling something simple.
Dems can’t sell well to their own customers on the left.
After you address the mechanics of this—the messenger, the message, the product, the ROI, the user and experience—then you can be concerned with policy.
The Dems mistaken think policy is what is selling. It is not. Trump is not selling policy or issues at the end of the day. He’s selling a vision of how to solve the biggest problems.
Sure he’s a pig rapist. The fact that you can’t outsell a pig rapist 78 year old should tell you just how bad you are at selling.
There’s also a lot of cheating, backstabbing, lying, and gross misuse of funds required.
It’s not a thing to be “like” them. We can’t because what they are is stupid, evil, fascist, and wrong. They love power and money and will do literally anything up to and including destroying the actual planet everything lives on to get it.
It’s called doing the wrong things for the right reasons. Having the capacity to do negative things with the expected outcome being a net-positive should be seen as something worthwhile. Instead Democrats want to be pussies.
Granted, the Democratic party in this election was a classic case of “Those who don’t standfor anything will fall for anything.” I don’t agree with your assessment of what it takes to win, but agree that the Dem party leaders are pushovers when it comes to playing hardball against the opposition.
Fear and hate (of Trump) was all the Dems were selling too… They literally ran (again) on a platform of “at least we’re not him” and that’s about it… But the Dems will never outsell Republicans on fear and hate, and they shouldn’t even try because the people who might vote for them aren’t looking for fear and hate
This is basically the only thing they tried… You’re saying they should have just tried harder at what they were already doing… In reality they needed an entirely different approach
Well, the better approach would be to stop courting so-called “corporate” democrats and actually make a true Progressive People’s Party. No one will do it cause no one understands that in order to succeed this People’s Party would have to be a simultaneously centralized and yet de-centralized party. No one person can lay claim to leadership in this party. Too much centralized power and you have corruption.
Essentially we need to bring back or attempt to resurrect the Workers & Poor People’s Party. The best way forward is riding on true progressive policies that at their core counter-act the effects of things like Project 2025.
No one will do it though. Current so called “leftists” are too afraid to get their hands dirty or to fight fire with fire when it comes to actually arguing or debating the idiotic cretins that helped put Trump and his cronies into power. If every single working class voter banded together and actually supported each other. Then we could get REAL people elected and not just another dipshit with some random law school MBA as their only life experience or education.
Real people with real experiences need to lead us.
Anyone else is just going to take advantage in some way.
İt z’n tu̇nėl vijėn. Ƿėt ðiſ mæn hæz f ſeıl z fılıŋ emboldened t yuz ð N-wṙd, æ Hz ſu̇poṙtṙz hæv con ripıtedlı ðeı aṙ ƿilıŋ t teıṙ ð wṙld t credz f ð tuınıiſt hit v ðæt cit.
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It isn’t tunnel vision. What this man has for sale is feeling emboldened to use the N-word, and his supporters have shown repeatedly they are willing to tear the world to shreds for the tiniest hit of that shit.
Trump doesn’t need to sell a vision of anything… He has almost no thoughts of his own except loving being worshipped… Maga TELLS HIM what he’s going to support, and then he fucking supports it (so they’ll worship him)… Dems should try this whole “support what the people who might vote for you tell you to support” thing
First recognize the most important reason you’re losing, and I hate to be cliche about it, but it’s the Glengarry Glen Ross rule: coffee is for closers only. These are the Glengarry leads and they’re not for you losers.
The Dems simply suck at selling. They suck at critically self examining their own strategy and get high on their own supply—while hardcore Christians within the GOP are meticulously planning for years their long term plays for generational change in their favor. The Supreme Court is the ultimate example of this.
This has nothing to do with policy, being too right or left, etc. You simply (a) suck at selling, (b) are not clearly selling something simple.
Dems can’t sell well to their own customers on the left.
After you address the mechanics of this—the messenger, the message, the product, the ROI, the user and experience—then you can be concerned with policy.
The Dems mistaken think policy is what is selling. It is not. Trump is not selling policy or issues at the end of the day. He’s selling a vision of how to solve the biggest problems.
Sure he’s a pig rapist. The fact that you can’t outsell a pig rapist 78 year old should tell you just how bad you are at selling.
It is simply not about the issues.
There’s also a lot of cheating, backstabbing, lying, and gross misuse of funds required.
It’s not a thing to be “like” them. We can’t because what they are is stupid, evil, fascist, and wrong. They love power and money and will do literally anything up to and including destroying the actual planet everything lives on to get it.
There’s no “left wing” version of that.
Well …
It’s called doing the wrong things for the right reasons. Having the capacity to do negative things with the expected outcome being a net-positive should be seen as something worthwhile. Instead Democrats want to be pussies.
Granted, the Democratic party in this election was a classic case of “Those who don’t standfor anything will fall for anything.” I don’t agree with your assessment of what it takes to win, but agree that the Dem party leaders are pushovers when it comes to playing hardball against the opposition.
You should find a new slur though. Pussies are anything but weak.
Your last sentence is why we lost. No one thinks pussies are strong and if you have to explain you already lost. Get a clue.
trump doesn’t sell ‘policy’ or ‘vision’ or even the ‘concept’ of either.
he sells fear and hate.
and ~ 30-40% of the population is feasting on all he can dish up.
Fear and hate (of Trump) was all the Dems were selling too… They literally ran (again) on a platform of “at least we’re not him” and that’s about it… But the Dems will never outsell Republicans on fear and hate, and they shouldn’t even try because the people who might vote for them aren’t looking for fear and hate
This is the tunnel vision that causes Dems to lose. This is simply a useless analysis if your goal is to crush the election and win.
You can be defeatist or get practical. We know Trump is beyond bad. He’s outselling. How do we win?
By selling his option as worse. Advertise how it would affect them. Tell them how much his policies cost. Sell it.
This is basically the only thing they tried… You’re saying they should have just tried harder at what they were already doing… In reality they needed an entirely different approach
Well, the better approach would be to stop courting so-called “corporate” democrats and actually make a true Progressive People’s Party. No one will do it cause no one understands that in order to succeed this People’s Party would have to be a simultaneously centralized and yet de-centralized party. No one person can lay claim to leadership in this party. Too much centralized power and you have corruption.
Essentially we need to bring back or attempt to resurrect the Workers & Poor People’s Party. The best way forward is riding on true progressive policies that at their core counter-act the effects of things like Project 2025.
No one will do it though. Current so called “leftists” are too afraid to get their hands dirty or to fight fire with fire when it comes to actually arguing or debating the idiotic cretins that helped put Trump and his cronies into power. If every single working class voter banded together and actually supported each other. Then we could get REAL people elected and not just another dipshit with some random law school MBA as their only life experience or education.
Real people with real experiences need to lead us.
Anyone else is just going to take advantage in some way.
İt z’n tu̇nėl vijėn. Ƿėt ðiſ mæn hæz f ſeıl z fılıŋ emboldened t yuz ð N-wṙd, æ Hz ſu̇poṙtṙz hæv con ripıtedlı ðeı aṙ ƿilıŋ t teıṙ ð wṙld t credz f ð tuınıiſt hit v ðæt cit.
spoiler
It isn’t tunnel vision. What this man has for sale is feeling emboldened to use the N-word, and his supporters have shown repeatedly they are willing to tear the world to shreds for the tiniest hit of that shit.
Trump doesn’t need to sell a vision of anything… He has almost no thoughts of his own except loving being worshipped… Maga TELLS HIM what he’s going to support, and then he fucking supports it (so they’ll worship him)… Dems should try this whole “support what the people who might vote for you tell you to support” thing