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This is frightening and definitely worth looking into.
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“population transfer” Is a very strong euphemism for genocide and mass displacement.
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Every country commissions these stratagram documents for different scenarios. It’s not surprising that Israeli government does the same. These documents are usually held quite secret, because they’re inflammatory, they go through many different scenarios, many of which are politically unpalatable.
What’s really interesting, is that this document was released now. Almost like it’s socializing the concept, testing the waters before the plan is committed with its allies.
And of that document option c appears to be being implemented right now in front of us.
Is the document genuine? Probably, I’ve seen sources from Canada Israel and other parties saying the document has been acknowledged by their sources.
Is the document itself a cause for concern? No.
Are the actions we’re seeing in real time, and the timing of the release of the document concerning? Very much so.
Everything hinges on Egypt’s cooperation. And I don’t know how Israel is going to compel that.
Maybe we’re watching a constructed drama unfold in real time?
Bombings for a couple weeks, escalate the humanitarian situation, have Egypt come in saying oh we’ll take care of the refugees. But make them look reluctant about it. Even though they’re getting some compensation on the other side. Then open the border while continuing the bombing. To get as many civilians to run out of the territory as quickly as possible.
Could be
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I agree with your point.
So I don’t want us to get stuck down in the semantic weeds, but I promise you every government has strategic documents going through different scenarios, including the usefulness of war crimes to achieve goals.
I.e. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_color-coded_war_plans
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Ya. The CIA has had everything from assassinations to drugs in the water for large populations. They even did those things as well. Things can get dark when you focus on protection of your said country and assume the worse of your enemy imagined and real.
Some of the documents can be kind of interesting and fun: I’m sure Denmark has a plan to repel a Canadian invasion of Greenland.
And I’m sure Canada has a plan on invading Greenland, if it should become necessary… Critical ice purposes
This is a continuation of the ethnic cleansing that Israel has carried out for the past 70 years. No big surprise.
Israel has roughly 2.000.000 Arabian citizens. They descent from 156.000 Arabs who stayed in Israel after 1948. This must be the least successful ethnic cleansing of all time!
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Indeed.
And also, being less efficient or succesful at ethnic cleansing compared to other (historic) ethnic cleansings doesn’t somehow make it OK.
The number of Albanians in Kosovo has also grown and the number killed wasn’t “huge” compared to the Holocaust or Holodomor or Armenian genocide.
But it was still a genocide and still wrong.
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Or even better, why aren’t they even allowed to marry Israeli citizens and live in Israel on that basis?
This is some real, literal apartheid segregation shit.
And the population of the Uyghurs was rapidly on the rise until just a few years ago - especially compared to the Han-Chinese population. That is not an ethnic cleansing as well then, right?
You may want to look up what a genocide is. It definitely does not require the complete extermination of a people, even by the self serving UN definition.
Away with your logic, here we are convinced that Israel is literally Hitler.
Well given that there were 700000 Arabs who had to flee out of fear of getting murdered (or because they were directly ordered to flee by the IDF’s predecessors), I’d say they were pretty successful.
That’s some interesting revisionist history. They were told they’d be able to return after the surrounding nations destroyed the newly formed Israel… that backfired and the surrounding nations refused to take on the refugees they created. Womp womp.
That’s the find out part that comes after fucking around. Seems like that lesson wasn’t learned so they’re back for more. Sucks for all the people who just want peace.
They were told they’d be able to return after the surrounding nations destroyed the newly formed Israel… that backfired and the surrounding nations refused to take on the refugees they created.
So you’re saying Israel did not massacre or expel Palestinians? I suggest reading Benny Morris (a Zionist Israeli historians)'s four-stage analysis of the Palestinian diaspora. Hint: Most of them were fleeing for their lives or actively ordered to flee by the IDF’s predecessors, as I said above.
The same way the Turks tried with the Armenians in ww1?
Yes. The same way the nazis did it, the same way Russia did it in Ukraine, the same way many other authoritarians and fascists did it. I’m failing to see the point of mentioning it though. Forced displacement is a violant of international law no matter who does it.
were they mostly successful?
Depends on your PoV. Up to 1.5 million Armenians out of up to 2.1 million died.
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