• Dewded@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Farmers where I come from are generally the owner and the worker. They already get the “full” value generated.

    Funnily enough due to the government paying them, this allows the manufacturers and stores to drive down the price of goods (when bought from the producer).

    The main idea behind this was to drive down the value of goods for the consumer and to ensure the EU produces food locally, but it has created an ugly transfer of wealth where manufacturers and stores now earn more. Consumer barely sees the difference.

    So most likely something should change for manufacture and vendors as well if the system was to be made fair.

    Locking prices for manufacture and vendors is not a thing. Giving subsidies to them will stifle competition.

    Agriculture subsidies do help producers compete with China, US and other outside markets, but at the cost of reward for labor.

    I think the system is not oppressive, but it certainly is not fair. Issues crop up in the middle of the value chain and there are no easy solutions.

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      1 year ago

      If farmers produce food by working lands they own, then they are not being exploited by land owners.

      However, as you observe, under our currrent systems, the value they realize from their labor is determined by food prices, as resolved by markets through which food is commodified.

      Businesses that exploit workers also participate in commodity food markets.

      Thus, as long as food is produced by profiting from worker exploitation, and is exchanged through commodity markets, all food production and distribution is bound to the profit motive, and therefore subject to distortion away from satisfaction of human need for survival and flourishing.

      I believe practices such as the one you describe, in principle may serve to mitigate some such distortions, and to advance the interests of the working class.

      Unfortunately, EU states, as other states around the world, have now fallen under neoliberalism, which simply exacerbates the wealth transfer from workers to large owners that is already inevitable as a structural consequence of relations under capitalist production and distribution.

      Now, you have not answered my question.

      Is profit not antagonist to the values you espouse?