They are… gun based ciws can easily be used against ribs and such. I just don’t know if a drone boat ban be armored enough to withstand the onslaught.

Yes

Because it was a bet either way. Indeed your stalemate. After this there might have been other legal avenues that the US would have attempted… prolonging the whole ordeal.

Especially the human aspect. Government employees just go home at the end of their day and sleep fine. Assange spent his time in an embassy/prison while this whole ordeal went through. Now it is over.

The US did not have him in one of their actual prisons, but they did imprison him for over a decade.

Sickle + autocannon against automatons.
Breaker + eat against bugs.
Light scout armor.

And usually eagle strike + whatever I feel like.

Sure pointing to Russian incompetence is easy. I would like to see how NATO ships fare in a training exercise against a pack of 10 Magura V’s. I’ll bet they will find it is much harder than they thought.

These things are so low in the water they dissapears between the waves for radar and other tracking systems, they can move slow to get close and be within the outer defense layers before they are spotted. And now they even come with deployable mines, grad missiles or even anti air missiles.

You are right, sorry. Unmanned Surface Vehicle.

Or just put era blocks on ships too… lol

Yeah simple. It’s not like it’s rocket science.

A laser? Mount it on ISS and expand the solar panels and install a battery/capacitor. It might be slow… but for the smaller stuff burning it up might work, or not?

Yes, very much so. The reason I think there might be add ons is due to the nature of the threat.

Very angry, low visible, high speed, armored, unmanned surface vehicles that hunt in packs.

• The Rim116 might not be usable because by the time you see them you might not want to / can not use a missile anymore.
• The gun based ciws (midas/goalkeeper/phalanx et al.) might not have enough penetration. They are built for engaging unarmored targets.

We can make fun of the Russian expansion of their submarine fleet in de black sea all we want… but if these maguras where an easy threat to deal with they would. No reason to think any NATO surface combatant would do any better when suddenly confronted with a similar threat.

Yeah, but currently they stay away from the front far enough. In the near future this will probably be done closer to the front with an amraam and harm packing F16 to back them up.

Edit: Cool read that link btw

Yes, add USVs to the treat list.

The type of threats these things pose are a lot more similar to missiles than they are to a Rib filled with goons. Low observable and fast, close to shore means that a high level of automation might be needed. Aka… a ciws.

And why I think there might be add ons, is the type of threat is new and existing systems might not suffice. Magura is armored a plane or missile is not.

That the US and her defense contractors see this and are very busy developing solutions against this very potent threat against their own ships. Since the rest of the Wold als sees this… and that includes some people/groups/countries that might want to sink some American ships. If anything this shows how dangerous Iran could make the Persian gulf for American ships.

Magura proves how vulnerable ships can be, especially against modern wolf packs.

So I hypothesize that they will come up with some form of “after market” installable Close In Weapon System (aka… a bolt on CIWS) to deal with these kind of threats.

Go figure, a lot of people don’t care about your fundamentalist backwards brethren poking Israël with a stick and then hiding behind civilians so they can cry in the media when innocents die.

Meanwhile US defense contractors are probably busy developing bolt on CIWS for their littoral combat ships.

Because it is easier to deny your enemy terrain than it is to keep it.

And Ukraine does have a navy. It is just made up out of very angry remote controlled low observable high speed boats that carry a ton of explosives and don’t have to come home because they want to hug your ship and make it sad.

They are old fashioned dum bombs equipped with a modern “backpack” glide kit. The glide kit has wings that swing out and avionics that steer the bomb to its target using gps with a range (up to 50km) depending on the launch altitude.

A cheap way to get 500kg of explosives to something you want to blow up.

Ukranians have aasm hammr and glsdb for this. Glsdb is arguably cooler as it has a rocket motor and can be deployed from the ground using (hi)mars. But gps jamming by the Russians has proven their deployment difficult.

Edit: moved the 50 km to show it’s range not launch altitude.

Those ads that are now inserted during the program on us tv shows are annoying as fuck Banner at the bottom or side… Goddamnit.

I’d love to see additional tax increases after a specific year. If you want to drive an Oldtimer or a gas powered supercar… it should be expensive to operate.

But indeed only once full electrification has reached normal families.

No they won’t, but now they where deemed at fault, let the civil litigation begin. As this is the American way.