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    5 months ago

    This article you keep posting in lieu of a response doesn’t really make a strong argument against consent to argue against.

    It largely seems to be coming from a standpoint that hormone blockers are a thing that adults inflict on children, rather than something that children are asking for, and being allowed to take from the adults in their lives.

    The article you post also only really states that gender dysphoria isn’t real, but all of the sources to your source do not question this.

    But the permeance of puberty blockers, which was the only point made before your post was edited, is important to any consent question.

    There is a spectrum of things where we decide that it’s okay for children to decide for themselves, and things they cannot. I think, in no reasonable person’s mind, is it okay to allow a child to decide whether or not to cut off a limb. I think, in no reasonable person’s mind, is it problematic to occasionally allow a child to eat what they want. Why is this issue closer to the limb cutting model than the junk food model?



  • I do not think you’re representing this article accurately.

    The part of the article that I think you’re talking about cites this article as its source: https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/gender-dysphoria/treatment/

    But both your source and that article, only refer to hormone blockers with questions that have yet to be answered.

    It then references an article from Stat, which is a relatively small sample size of women who have experienced bone thinning.

    I don’t see anything claiming stunted growth. The article then mostly goes on to talk about hormone therapy, which is generally not started until someone is 16, which is the age of consent in a large portion of the US, and doesn’t seem to apply to this conversation.

    It’s also worth noting that bone thinning would be a side effect, and nothing I’m seeing cited shows a study of how often that occurs.

    I think, to be convinced that puberty blockers are not safe for children, I would need to see a study that shows that the intended use of puberty blockers are generally non reversible, instead of a site that asks whether or not they might not be, or a study showing the side effects to be particularly life alerting in a way that is worse or more common than the side effects of other drugs that we are okay with prescribing to children.