Who’d have thought Business Insider would be running interference for the neoliberal slide into end-stage capitalism, by blaming those worst affected by the collapse for the symptoms that are fucking them over?

Ah - You must be referring to the ones that funded and backed Hamas’s rise to power over the secular moderates with predictable results…

Israel.

He denied threatening the driver with arrest, but kept threatening him with obstruction, which is a secondary charge unless I’m mistaken.

That’s bound to work out great with their history of crashing…

Who will pay their bribes to secure a healthy pipeline of human suffering because that’s good for their investors donations to encourage more great policies and responsible governance.

But prison is so much more expensive… Looks at political donations from prison companies Ah - that’ll do it.

Why bother with representation and good policy when you can have corruption, graft, and all the wonders of late stage capitalism.

Yes - being flattered and disinterested in someone that just keeps coming back for more embarrassment is the creepy bit. It’s long past time you fucked off - this block is for your own good.

Try to work on your credulity - assuming civilians (and UN aid workers yesterday) being executed in drone strikes by a genocidal regime is all above board is evidence of a severe cognitive deficiency.

Edit: I guess we can throw the Iranian consulate on to the pile too.

What’s hard to understand is why you skipped the question I asked, and answered a different one instead.

The creation of the CSAM is unquestionably far more harmful, but I wasn’t talking about the *creation *- I was talking about the possession. The harm of the creation is already done, and whether or not the material exists after that does nothing to undo that harm.

Again, is your prescription the same as it relates to the possession, not generation of CSAM?

Yet you keep coming back for more…

Is this some kind of humiliation fetish deal? I’m flattered but not interested - if nothing else, given the dumb, inconsistent nonsense you’re spouting, I’ve got concerns about your capacity for consent.

What did I say about trotting on, again? Get to it.

There we have it folks.

You couldn’t help putting a nice little bow on my point, could you?

He’s doin’ it for the 'gram.

It has been several years, and he did cry a lot when it happened

He’s not new to the circuit, and he cried when it looked like he might wind up in prison. None of this is remorse.

I’m not sure remorse is necessary if it was in self-defense.

True - though I’d say it seems common. Either way, crossing state lines to procure a firearm to take to that protest to create the pretext to shoot people was not self-defence. That’s premeditated.

I’m also not sure what other opportunities he has.

I won’t be losing any sleep over someone having some extra difficulty finding employment after getting away with what he did. There’s no shortage of people that support him - finding a job that doesn’t involve bragging about killing 2 people isn’t a big ask.

Nobody tries to find problems with the hand that feeds them.

This simply isn’t true. I’ve turned down lucrative job offers (e.g. 70%+ more than what I was on at the time plus significant chunks of equity and benefits) because I had concerns about the ethics of the prospective employers. I’ve also spoken out about issues with my employers that have cost me multiple jobs (and chasing me out rather than listening buried at least one of those businesses). I don’t hold others to standards I don’t uphold myself.

Honestly, with everything said about people like Dennis Prager and TPUSA, from his perspective he can just think “leftists hate and lie about them like they hated and lied about me”.

I’m not going to make excuses for him dismissing the endless, quantified criticism of a transparently dishonest, racist propaganda outfit and the parade of absolute scumbags he chose to work alongside.

Strange of you to respond to a comment about the fakes being shared in this way…

Do you have the same prescriptions in relation to someone with a stash of CSAM, and if not, why not?

In cases like this, I favour the kind of poetic justice that only irony can deliver - leaving them strapped down to be waterboarded by one of their sewage outlets seems like a good option.

The internet made photos of trump and putin kissing shirtless.

And is that OK?

I’m going to jump in on this one and say yes - it’s mostly fine.

I look at these things through the lens of the harm they do and the benefits they deliver - consequentialism and act utilitarianism.

The benefits are artistic, comedic and political.

The “harm” is that Putin and or Trump might feel bad, maaaaaaybe enough that they’d kill themselves. All that gets put back up under benefits as far as I’m concerned - they’re both extremely powerful monsters that have done and will continue to do incredible harm.

The real harm is that such works risk normalising this treatment of regular folk, which is genuinely harmful. I think that’s unlikely, but it’s impossible to rule out.

Similarly, the dissemination of the kinds of AI fakes under discussion is a negative because they do serious,measurable harm.

You’re making highly authoritarian, essentialist arguments - I can’t imagine why you’d be getting that kind of pushback.

As you double down while getting downvoted to oblivion as everyone tells you how wrong you are, I’m sure you won’t be the…

kid (that) comes up with bullshit rationalisation for why they’re right and everyone else is wrong once they get home.

The moron defending warcrimes during a genocide with arguments that would defend Hitler is creeped out by the rule of law - I’m shocked.

You’ve been in the process of fucking right off for about a dozen posts now - get to goose stepping, Rudolph Jitler.

Yeah - fuck me for needing a reason to belive a genocidal regime drone striking civilians isn’t committing yet another warcrime, I guess.

Never mind that your logic could be used to defend the Nazis gassing millions of Jews because they don’t need to mail me justification for every person they killed - we don’t need to call for evidence - we need to give them the benefit of the doubt, right?

You haven’t received a detailed breakdown of war and casualties via mail? Weird…

Believe it or not, proof doesn’t need to be mailed to me, but it does need to be provided. It hasn’t been. Who do you think it needs to be provided to, and when should that happen? It hasn’t and won’t go to the ICJ. Similarly, the world hasn’t recieved one via the same public channels Israel used to confirm they killed these civilians. I guess there’s still Palestinian children that still draw breath, so I’m sure they’re prioritising addressing that.

What the fuck are you on about…

Israel would be the school shooter claiming self-defence in this analogy. You don’t get to kill a bunch of people, make excuses, and not prove them. Neither does Israel.

You are literally insane. Nobody has to prove anything to you, you absolutely delusional person. You are a fucking civilian half a world away. I don’t know how are you not getting this.

Again, supplying the evidence for the high-profile killing of multiple civilians via the same channels they used to confirm it was them would be sensible. The irony of someone busy arguing against the rule of law calling me insane isn’t lost on me.

Karen “just knowing things” again

Yeah, but mostly just asking for evidence to justify the killing of multiple civilians rather than defending those killings.

Just because don’t know the reason, doesn’t mean that IDF didn’t have one,

Sure they shot up that school and admitted to it, but they probably had a good reason for it. Uh huh - I’m insane.

and no, they don’t have to mail you the reason while the there’s an ongoing war.

You understand that this makes you look dumber than most of the things you’re saying right? Also, I know genocide is a big word and war isn’t, but this isn’t a war.

they should get detailed war reports delivered to them, to justify every war casualty

You’re doing the stupid again.

1. You don’t understand how war works

Not a war - a genocide.

2. You still don’t know what evidence is

If you’re to be believed it can’t exist, and isn’t needed in any case - Israel are probably fine, and can be trusted, right?

3. You still think the bad guys should look like the bad guys from Holywood movies, otherwise they’re good guys

I think you need a reason to kill a bunch of people - there isn’t one here.

4. You still think you can watch a video and know things from “intuition”.

We know a regime that’s currently committing a genocide and a laundry list of warcrimes killed 4 people with no apparent reason to do so. On the one hand, I’m saying we’d need to see evidence justifying these killings to know they’re not a warcrime. On the other, you’re saying nothing is evidence, and because Israel doesn’t need to provide the fictional evidence to me personally, it’s all fine.

All four show me that this is a completely meaningless conversation and a general waste of my time.

Noone can waste your time but you.

Now, tell me how I’m a genocide denier, even though I agreed that there’s genocide in Gaza,

You’re defending the warcrimes that make up that genocide.

and tell me how I’m defending IDF, even though I think IDF and Israeli government are terrorists.

You’re defending the warcrimes the IDF is committing.

Continue living in your cocoon of safety and self-righteousness sucking up all the propaganda and every conspiracy theory, thinking that your reactions on facebook/twitter videos help the people of Gaza.

Is that the cocoon where we observe a bunch of warcrimes committed in commission if a genocide and assume it’s probably fine? If a bridge isn’t too your taste, how about some lunar real estate?

Whe could continue this circle of me trying to explain things to a rock, but I’d rather use my time elsewhere.

Me challenging you on your total desregard for the rule of law, warcrimes, or the ongoing commission of a genocide isn’t a me problem.

I’ll be sorry to see you go - it was quaint hearing about this genocide that’s happening without Israel indiscriminately targeting civilians and your care for the rule of law as you defend the killing of those civilians while throwing around weak insults.

Maybe they do, maybe they don’t. It’s not clear from the video.

We’d need the IDF to justify the killings. They haven’t won’t and can’t.

Maybe they do, maybe they don’t. It’s not clear from the video.

You think you can go shoot up a school, then say it was in self-defence without evidence and get away with it? How’s the principle different here?

We don’t. No evidence they are civilians. No evidence they are combatants. If you have proof other than “they look civilian”, give us proof.

The burden isn’t on those killed to prove their innocence - the killers need to do that. Rule of law - really simple stuff you seem incapable of grasping but get all pissy when I point that out.

It is not. No proof this is Gaza. No proof it’s an IDF drone strike. No proof that it happened last week, last month, last year or last decade. If you have proof “IDK it looks like it”, give us proof. And not just one of these things, but ALL.

…except the IDF admitting it was them. I know they have zero credibility, but when they admit to this kind of thing, I think it’s reasonable to believe them.

Nobody said IDF don’t have proof. They just don’t have to share it with the public, no matter how hard you want it. I’m not defending them, I’m trying to show you that your logic is flawed, and you can easily be swayed by misinformation and propaganda.

Absent anything at all suggesting they were combatants in the context of a genocide Israel is committing? I’ve got a bridge to sell you.

What I believe is my deduction from actual, confirmed, reputable sources. Not a random twitter video. My opinion that is a genocide is just that - opinion. And unlike you, I don’t claim I have proof. Because none of us have.

Again, the IDF admitted to the killings. You saw video of a bunch of people being killed for no discernible reason, and you’re defending that.

And the rest? You can stop reaching - it’s not doing you any favours.