Portugal Runs on 100% Renewables Dropping Consumer Electric Bills to Nearly Zero for 6 Days in a Row::In total, there were 149 hours of total renewables generation, 95 of which saw the Portuguese grid exporting to Spain

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    1 year ago

    I’m pretty sure I still pay all the renewable energy I consume at home. I wish the bill was zero, that would be amazing.

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      I’m going to go ahead and assume that the article means it comes at zero cost to Portugal, as a country, thus not having to import it. It would be fairly misleading though.

      • loki@lemmy.ml
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        1 year ago

        it comes at zero cost to Portugal, as a country, thus not having to import it

        i’m always confused by this. does this include traditional fuel or just the electric grid?

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          1 year ago

          Nope, all of Portugal now only has electric vehicles. No air planes, only zeppelins and hot air balloons. No boats, only floaty arm bands, rafts, canoes, and kayaks.

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      Yea I was curious about that, is there a certain amount that’s paid for? If it was all free, it would incentivize some people to exceed normal usage

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        As I understand, this happens when renewables ‘overproduce’ and we need to get rid of the power somehow. People can gladly use as much power as they want in that case. Even if someone fills up batteries for free to later sell back into the grid when production normalizes, that is actually very much what we want. It just adds storage capacity and ensures prices will stay low for longer.

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    1 year ago

    “Dropping Consumer Electric Bills to Nearly Zero” sorry, but this is a bunch of bullshit.

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      149 hours of total renewables generation, 95 of which saw the Portuguese grid exporting to Spain

      Pretty sure this is why. They sold the excess energy to Spain which probably paid for those costs by itself, leaving nothing to bill citizens for.

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    i’m glad for the renewable production hitting new heights

    consumer electric bills to nearly zero” is utter unsubstantiated bullshit, though

    Portugal has one of the highest prices of electricity for consumers in the EU, while having one of the lowest purchasing powers

    btw, shit is getting worse for most really, really fast, in part due to the gentrification and deluge of new residents with wallets unfathomably heavier coming from Germany, France, UK and USA to the new Florida of Europe

  • pathief@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Yet… the electricity bill has tripled since July, as new taxes were introduced to fuck you over. Consumer bills are definitely not dropping and definitely not near zero.