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    All those supposed “popups” you can disable. “Bloatware” you can uninstall and are added by the laptop manufacturer not Microsoft, and “advertisements” only happen once on a fresh install.

    Almost like those supposedly tech savvy people don’t know what a setting is.

    It is fine if you prefer Linux over Windows, but don’t go about just straight up lying about it.

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      Even if you know windows and all those settings, windows pushed updates that add popups and bloatware.

      So you don’t have a choice even if you do disable it uninstall things

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      Bro hasn’t used windows 11 recently i see.

      I literally get daily ads from the Microsoft store. I HAVE TOAST MESSAGES DISABLED

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      maybe people shouldn’t have to do all that to use the system they paid for without being bombarded with ads

      just a thought 🌈

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      Candy crash in start menu along with a thousand other ads, inabiltiy to delete internet explorer and cortana until recently, asking to buy microsoft365 after every update, constant telemetey and tracking with no option to opt out completely, and so on.

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      Windows 11 is Microsoft bloatware and ads. They are getting more. The EU made Microsoft to add an option to disable ads because there was none.

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      This is just factually inaccurate corporate shill talk. In windows 10 I had to completely gut the Microsoft store using regedit to actually stop the ads that come directly from Microsoft. And then you can’t use the Xbox app (for access to game pass) which is basically the only reason I would want windows to start with (among other things it completely breaks) … And that’s a pc I built with a “clean” windows install.

      When it “upgraded” itself to windows 11 despite opting out several times, and being bombarded with more ads and constant bs pop-ups, the last straw broke the camel’s back for me. Moved all my computers to Linux only and haven’t looked back.

      It’s nice the EU is doing what it can to curb Microsoft’s invasive crap, but it also appears it only helps people in the EU and NA customers still get the bloated “OS” displaying more ads than an old geocities warez site.

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        I mean, I use a Windows 11 machine for work and play…spend probably 10 hours a day on the thing most days, and the only popups I ever remember getting are from Steam and the Epic game store…the most annoying thing I can remember that wasn’t vendor bloatware (that I removed once and haven’t thought about since) was disabling onedrive.

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      A short while ago i’ve decided to switch to linux. Just a sudden urge to freshen my experience. You know what? It’s easier to setup a fuckig linux than to disable all those shit on windows. Idk, it just was always so tiring for me to open regedit and gpedit, find all this bullshit i need to disable, and so on. I don’t know ho, and why, but even simple configuration is a pain. And even after that you won’t be able to uninstall windows defender, for example.

      Also, tiling window managers rule, just as the ability to configure the keybindings. And the file system is not as cancerous: there are no bunch of different appdatas programdatas and lots of other places where the apps’ cache is stored.

      I hope more people will start to switch to linux, so microsoft won’t be a de-facto monopolist. Even after that I won’t switch back tho, linux became far more comfortable for me, and it became so after a weirdly short acclimatisation period.

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      I recently watched my dad install windows 11 (his sixth or so time). It took him over an hour of typing commands into the terminal and navigating through 50 different menus to install windows and disable all the shit that comes with it, all on supported hardware. I don’t understand how people justify this when linux takes 10 minutes to install and doesn’t come filled with ads and telemetry.

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        It’s a familiarity problem, those exact same people would turn around and after doing that insane install process and tell you that Windows Works without issues or a bunch of manual tweaking on like your stupid Linux. They don’t see it as a problem or tweaking just because they are so used to it whereas they would have to relearn that for Linux

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      Five years ago I installed Windows 10 direct from Microsoft’s online store onto my Ubuntu laptop so I could play some Windows-only games.

      It was fine for a while, but after some updates the Start menu began shoving ads (I believe Candy Crush was a big one) into my shortcut panels.

      It’s true that I could go deleting them one-by-one, and probably hunt down settings to disable them, but I find it repulsive that I paid for an operating system only to be personally made into a product for Microsoft on top of that. I’ve decided I’m never going to spend another dollar on such predatory behavior, even if it means I’m throwing away a significant portion of my video game library.

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      My answer to these kinds of statements is always 👏🏼use👏🏼enterprise👏🏼edition

      Edit: It’s also a way to stick it to MS because you have to pirate it basically.